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Old 11-19-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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Actually here in Texas. Americans are bussing tables, and dishwashing. They are paid 13 hour.... I was shocked after I left Chicago and moved here when I seen white class Americans bussing tables and working the dishwasher....

Its possible and when a college or high school kid needs a job. They will take it... It is much different in Chicago


I don't know which part of Texas you are living in but I can say from experience Texas has a huge population of illegal immigrants doing those types of jobs and all of the large cities (ie Houston, Dallas, and yes Austin) are also sanctuary cities.
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Old 11-19-2016, 05:07 PM
 
Location: 78745
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I don't care one bit for that Rahm Emanuel. Something about him has never set right with me. I cant quite put my finger on it, but he seems so phony. He has an elitist style about him that turns me off to no end. It's people like him that give liberals a bad name. I never understood what so brilliant about him that Obama had him in his administration. I have my own thoughts on that i will keep to myself. But suffice to say, if not for Obama I doubt if anybody outside of Chicagoland would have a clue who Rahm Emanuel is, and leave it at that.

All that said, I don't have any problem with law abiding people from Mexico and Central America who are in this country without proper permission from the United States govt. They have never caused me any problems or interfered in my life in any kind of way. I'm not at war with those people. Their lives are stressful enough.

I certainly wouldn't want to see any families suffer or be split up because of anything I said or thought about them. I don't want that on my conscience. I think God might have issues with humans treating other humans in such an inhumane way.

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Old 11-19-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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I don't care one bit for that Rahm Emanuel. Something about him has never set right with me. I cant quite put my finger on it, but he seems so phony. He has an elitist style about him that turns me off to no end. It's people like him that give liberals a bad name. I never understood what so brilliant about him that Obama had him in his administration. I have my own thoughts on that i will keep to myself. But suffice to say, if not for Obama I doubt if anybody outside of Chicagoland would have a clue who Rahm Emanuel is, and leave it at that.

All that said, I don't have any problem with law abiding people from Mexico and Central America who are in this country without proper permission from the United States govt. They have never caused me any problems or interfered in my life in any kind of way. I'm not at war with those people. Their lives are stressful enough.

I certainly wouldn't want to see any families suffer or be split up because of anything I said or thought about them. I don't want that on my conscience. I think God might have issues with humans treating other humans in such an inhumane way.
It's like your dismissing those they've harmed in some way. Just because you're not dealing with them.
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:36 PM
 
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This is just virtue signaling. And just bad governing.
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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It's like your dismissing those they've harmed in some way. Just because you're not dealing with them.
I'm not talking about the ones who committed violent crimes. The ones who commit violent crimes need to be sent back the country they came from and not be allowed to set foot in the United States ever again.

I'm talking about the ones that work an honest living, and stay out of trouble and are trying to make a better life for their selfs and familys. To send those people back to the country they came from, and split the family up, is immoral and is not the right thing to do. And it's not a liberal or conservative or religious way of thought either. It's common sense.

Companies enticed the people to come here with the promise of a good job that pays more money than they'd ever make in Mexico, all with the blessing of the US Govt. When the workers come here from Mexico, they are playing the game set up by my the govt and businesses, just like everybody else does. Its when things get heated, the politicians, the businesses want to point the fingers at the workers who are here without proper permission, as if they are the bad people and it's all their fault.
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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I'm talking about the ones that work an honest living, and stay out of trouble and are trying to make a better life for themselves and families. To send those people back to the country they came from, and split the family up, is immoral and is not the right thing to do. And it's not a liberal or conservative or religious way of thought either. It's common sense.
No one forced them to illegally enter and put down roots. The family does not have to be split up, the US born ones may leave with them, and keep the family intact. What's wrong with that?

This whole "keep the families together" spiel has gotten old. If that's the benchmark for policy, then we should never put anyone in prison because it "splits up" families.
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Rahm decided to grandstand with the rest of the country's large metropolises because he didn't want to be left out. He hasn't changed Chicago's existing policies, which predate him by decades. We would have been targeted with or without Rahm's remarks, assuming Trump even does what he claims he will. His major infrastructure projects don't mesh with withholding funding from the majority of America's large cities. Granted his infrastructure projects also don't mesh with his proposed tax breaks, so who knows what he'll actually end up doing.

I'm also highly skeptical that he plans on dropping the hammer on his beloved NYC, a city that he intends to live in on the weekends, and in which Melania and his son Barron will still be living in since they won't be moving to the White House.
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Old 11-20-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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Rahm decided to grandstand with the rest of the country's large metropolises because he didn't want to be left out. He hasn't changed Chicago's existing policies, which predate him by decades. We would have been targeted with or without Rahm's remarks, assuming Trump even does what he claims he will. His major infrastructure projects don't mesh with withholding funding from the majority of America's large cities. Granted his infrastructure projects also don't mesh with his proposed tax breaks, so who knows what he'll actually end up doing.

I'm also highly skeptical that he plans on dropping the hammer on his beloved NYC, a city that he intends to live in on the weekends, and in which Melania and his son Barron will still be living in since they won't be moving to the White House.
Precisely
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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No one forced them to illegally enter and put down roots. The family does not have to be split up, the US born ones may leave with them, and keep the family intact. What's wrong with that?
Has to do with why they left the country to begin with.

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This whole "keep the families together" spiel has gotten old. If that's the benchmark for policy, then we should never put anyone in prison because it "splits up" families.
I bet you're the type that believes private property can be double-dipped.

Let's take the property owner of an abandoned building.

I bet you're the type that believes if you get into his house at night, you're violating his right because you're on his property and grounds for prosecution for trespassing.

And what about the abandoned building he owns, I bet you're the type that believes if someone wandered into his abandoned building, you're also violating his right just like as if you broke into his house.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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As much as I generally despise Emanuel, he's on the right side of history on this issue. One of the few things he's gotten right.
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