11-06-2012, 07:48 PM
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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Culver's, Red Robin, Golden Corral, and Steak N Shake - all nice restaurants, yet none are in the city! Why do they not setup restaurants in the city? I hate that I have to drive to the suburbs just to eat at these places!
11-06-2012, 07:53 PM
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Any other nice restaurants not in the city but in the suburbs?
-Up, Up and Buffet!
-Prof. VJ Cornicopia’s Fantastic Foodmagorium & Great American Steakery
-Griddler on the Roof
-The Texas Cheesecake Depository
-General Chang’s Taco Italiano
11-06-2012, 08:00 PM
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Culver's, Red Robin, Golden Corral, and Steak N Shake - all nice restaurants ,
O RLY?
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Jesse69
Why do they not setup restaurants in the city?
Gee, I dunno, maybe because there are much much better restaurants in the city, and they can't compete?
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I hate that I have to drive to the suburbs just to eat at these places!
I'm curious...and this is an honest question...why do you choose to live in Wicker Park rather than the suburbs?
Last edited by ChiNaan; 11-06-2012 at 08:30 PM ..
11-06-2012, 08:11 PM
Location: West Loop, Chicago, IL
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I think the major thing is their strategy. Mostly demographics, rent, and competition play into their decision. Restaurants like the one you stated above rely heavily on families and therefore copious parking. Parking is at a premium in the City, and they can open a suburban location for a fraction of what they'd pay in Chicago.
11-06-2012, 08:12 PM
Location: Chicago
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Culver's, Red Robin, Golden Corral, and Steak N Shake - all nice restaurants, yet none are in the city! Why do they not setup restaurants in the city? I hate that I have to drive to the suburbs just to eat at these places!
Those are all crappy, fast-food restaurants. Why would you eat at any of those places if you live in the city? That would be like ordering a pizza from Pizza Hut. It just doesn't make any sense.
11-06-2012, 08:33 PM
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If I remember correctly, I think Drover once mentioned how there are no inner-city Culver's anywhere save for 1 in Milwaukee. Something about not their target demographic or fitting for their image or something to that effect.
11-06-2012, 09:33 PM
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Culver's, Red Robin, Golden Corral, and Steak N Shake - all nice restaurants, yet none are in the city! Why do they not setup restaurants in the city? I hate that I have to drive to the suburbs just to eat at these places!
Probably, they find it a PITA to operate a business in the City of Chicago. If you look at Culvers, you will see that they have lined up their stores immediately outside the city limits.
11-06-2012, 10:00 PM
Location: zamunda
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guys, let's try and keep things in the right spirit.
11-06-2012, 10:20 PM
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The "market space" that the firms mentioned by the OP are considered "value priced" in the industry and inside Chicago and MOST mature suburbs there are generations of guys named "Nick", "Pete" or "Spiros" that have a pretty solid lock on that category. There is a sorta "Greek pipeline" of associated businesses that supply tables, chairs, napkins, plates, ovens, refrigerators, and every kind of food / beverage to friends of friends on terms that even the best logistics wizards of "national" chains can't really beat because so many of the long term family businesses don't pay high wages / salaries. Instead the keep a lot of the "profits" locked up in their businesses and do an awful lot to help relatives expand their overall business base.
11-06-2012, 10:56 PM
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Culver's, Red Robin, Golden Corral, and Steak N Shake - all nice restaurants
Um, really? LOL... man you need to get out more if you think those places are nice restaurants. Honestly. Red Robin is probably the best of those and that's not saying a ton. Try and compete with the power house Chicago restaurants. You can't. Not even close. They don't belong in inner city Chicago. They belong in suburban Chicago or the suburbs of Chicago.
There's a reason why not a lot of huge chains exist here...just a few. The chains that do are small and are usually more expensive than a Culver's.
If you honestly do not understand why Culver's or Golden Corral can't compete in Chicago and why they aren't here, then you do not understand the restaurant business and scene in a large food city like Chicago. I'm sure they could afford the rent, staffing, etc to be down here but it would be an utterly stupid business move.
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Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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