09-29-2011, 11:55 AM
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We have an international flight to catch from ORD in December.
To save on baggage fees(~ $120), we are considering flying into MDW(on southwest - no baggage fees
) and then taking CTA( Orange line from MDW to the loop and then Blue line to ORD)
The question is: Considering we haven't taken CTA before nor are very familiar with the route. Is this do-able with 4 large suitcases(each about 50lbs) and 2 carry-on bags(10 lbs each)?
I suppose it will be cold and may even snow in Chicago - would we be hauling bags in open spaces across parking lots or would it be covered?
Time is not a factor - just concerned about heavy baggage.
Considered getting Cab or Shuttle but there won't be significant cost savings as opposed to flying directly into ORD.
09-29-2011, 11:59 AM
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I wouldn't do it unless you were really saving a lot ($120 doesn't cut it for me). It can be done easily enough though.
09-29-2011, 12:17 PM
Location: Chicago
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I've done that, though not in Chicago. Massive pain to transport that much stuff around without a cart. Not sure if there is a shared ride van between the two airports. May be something to look into. I used a service like this in San Francisco. Shared a van with other travelers throughout the downtown area. Went around to a few hotels and then hopped on the expressway to the airport. Was maybe $10 or so.
09-29-2011, 12:21 PM
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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Describing it as "easy" with that many bags may be stretching things, but it would be easy without the bags. You wouldn't be uncovered at any point. You'd be outside waiting for the train at Midway and again when changing trains in the Loop, but you'd be under canopies.
At MDW, the CTA station is probably close to 800 feet from baggage claim, all walking. There are elevators for the parts where the level changes. There are also elevators at Clark/Lake where you'd transfer to the Blue Line to ORD.
Then at ORD, it's a pretty long walk to the terminals from the CTA station again. And if your flight departs from Terminal 5 (the international terminal, although some international flights do depart from the main terminals), you have to take the O'Hare shuttle train, which involves more elevators and yet another transfer to a smaller, automatic train.
All in all, with that much luggage, I'd expect the time from baggage claim to being in line to check your luggage at O'Hare to take no less than 2 hours, and it could easily take 2 1/2 hours or even a little more depending on how much the luggage slows you down and how long the transfer takes.
MOST importantly, if you would be arriving at Midway at or just before Rush Hour, your chance of being able to get onto an O'Hare-bound Blue Line train with that much luggage between 4:30pm and 6pm is, honestly, very low. You would have to wait for multiple trains to pass before there would be enough room for you and your luggage to get on.
I agree with Vlajos - the hassle would not be worth a savings of $120 to me. Flying internationally comes with enough stress and uncertainty as it is, the last thing I'd want to do is throw in an ordeal like that after one flight and before a second. My answer would be different if you each just had one 35-pound backpack. But with the luggage you describe, it's doable, but I don't think you'll enjoy the experience -particularly if you're doing it at rush hour.
EDIT: I second looking into shared vans. They might be a reasonable compromise for cost/time/hassle.
09-29-2011, 12:56 PM
Location: Wicker Park/East Village area
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It depends heavily on the time you will be on the L trains. You want to avoid morning and afternoon rush periods.
09-29-2011, 12:56 PM
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The walk from the terminal at Midway to the Orange Line station is a little long, but none of it is actually outside. Most of it winds through a parking garage, so it may be cold in there, but you wouldn't have to worry about snow/ice. After the parking garage, you cross over a wide street on an enclosed pedestrian bridge (with a people mover), then you're at the station.
There is no direct connection between the Orange and Blue lines. There are two ways to make the switch. One involves going directly from Orange to Blue. This has the advantage of changing trains only once, but the disadvantage of requiring you to walk outside, though it's only for about two blocks. The other disadvantage of this method for someone who doesn't know the area would be not really knowing your way around. But it's a perfectly safe area and all you would have to do is ask someone on the street to point you in the right direction.
The other way of making the switch has the advantage of not having to walk around outside at all, but the disadvantage of having to switch trains twice. With this method, you would take the Orange Line to Roosevelt. At Roosevelt, you would switch to the Red Line going north. The Orange Line is an elevated train and at Roosevelt, the Red Line is underground. So making the connection will involve you dragging your luggage down two flights of stairs (the escalators only go up).
You would then take the Red Line north to Jackson. When you get off at Jackson, somewhere in the middle of the platform will be a set of stairs leading down with signs saying Blue Line. Those stairs take you to a tunnel that connects the Red Line to the Blue Line. The tunnel only goes one way, so you can't get lost. This part of the trek will involve taking your luggage down a flight of stairs and then back up when you get to the other side. With this, you will finally be at the Blue Line, where you would take the train to O'Hare.
Once you get to O'Hare, depending on which terminal you're leaving from, you may have to do a lot more walking to get there. But there are escalators and people movers everywhere, so you won't have to do any more heavy lifting, and the people movers will make some of the long stretches go a little faster.
Although you mentioned that time is not a factor, just FYI, this trip will take at least 90 minutes
You didn't say how many of you are travelling, but hopefully, each one of those 50 lb. bags will have a separate person to carry it. If that's the case and it's wheeled luggage, as I assume it is, you should be ok. $120 is nothing to sneeze at, so I understand your motivation. Particularly if doing this on the return will save you another $120.
09-29-2011, 12:59 PM
Location: Wicker Park/East Village area
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Quote:
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Kevin J
There is no direct connection between the Orange and Blue lines. There are two ways to make the switch. One involves going directly from Orange to Blue. This has the advantage of changing trains only once, but the disadvantage of requiring you to walk outside, though it's only for about two blocks.
Am I missing something?
There is a direct connect, it's at Clark & Lake, all inside, only you have to to go down from an elevated track to a subway track, still, it's very easy!
09-29-2011, 01:09 PM
Location: Chicago
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Keep in mind you're looking at an hour and a half of transit time alone from airport to airport -- that doesn't count the time spent walking from terminal to train or time spent waiting for the train to depart from Midway or waiting on a Blue Line transfer. All said, you're realistically looking at 2 hours from terminal to terminal. And then there's hauling all of that crap around...
Just fly into ORD.
09-29-2011, 01:46 PM
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Am I missing something?
There is a direct connect, it's at Clark & Lake, all inside, only you have to to go down from an elevated track to a subway track, still, it's very easy!
Yep.
That being said it sounds like a pain in the ass to save $120, especially if you can afford two overseas flights.
09-29-2011, 01:47 PM
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Yes, there is a direct connection at Clark/Lake where you just go down the stairs and don't have to pay again. The disadvantage is that you will be boarding at the north end of the loop after most of the downtown commuters have already boarded and filled up the cars. As has already been mentioned, if you are traveling at a busy time, you may have a hard time squeezing in with so much luggage.
Another factor to consider: Southwest does not interline. Which means that you will have to buy a separate ticket for the Southwest portion of your journey. If something should happen (a bad storm, a mechanical problem, a plane just running late) and you can't get to your international flight on time, neither Southwest nor your international carrier will take responsibility for getting you to your final destination. As far as Southwest is concerned, their only responsibility is getting your to Midway eventually (or refunding your fare to Midway). As far as your international carrier is concerned, you just didn't show up for your flight.
On the other hand, most other carriers have interline agreements which means that you can book a single ticket/itinerary even on competing airlines. Each airline is then responsible for getting you to your final destination if they somehow screw up on a connecting flight. And have you priced a through ticket? It may be possible that booking a single ticket from your home to your foreign destination will be cheaper than buying two tickets. Many airlines have alliances that allow them to quote a single fare all the way and not pay separate fares from your home to Chicago and then from Chicago to your final destination.
Even if it's cheaper to fare the domestic segment separately, you can still book both on the same ticket/itinerary.
And, incidentally, most airlines allow at least one free bag on international flights. If you are flying on a single through-fare (rather than two separate tickets), they will just charge you the international rate. And, other than a few airlines like Southwest, most airlines can through-check your luggage to your final destination even if you are changing carriers and you certainly won't be charged two luggage fees.
I think you would be well-advised not to plan your domestic and international segments separately. Buy your whole trip on a single itinerary.
But if you still want to go through with your plan, take a cab. It will be very difficult to lug that amount of stuff around the 'L' system and up and down stairs. The shuttle prices have risen so much that it will probably be cheaper for two people to share a cab than take one of the shuttles.
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People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)