11-08-2011, 03:42 PM
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Irving park is relatively safe, but if you have a choice I would live more east of Kimball. You'd be closer to Ravenswood Manor, Horner Park, a quick drive or jog away from Lincoln Square... The more west you go of Kimall, the more "urban" is gets. There are quite a few places popping up on Irving Park Rd between California and Kimball, a couple of sports bars, deli, coffee shop... seems like it's beginning to attract some businesses and night life. It's no Lincoln Square, or even Rosco Village, but I'd imagine it could create a decent entertainment area for itself within the next 5 to 10 years, if the economy improves.
West Rp = West Ridge. Also depends on the part of West Ridge.
Check out Devon and Leavitt. Thats not too desireable, that whole area
south of Warren park is the pitts. Overall I find Rogers Park much more interesting than Irving Park. Rogers Park has the beach/lake/loyola. Morse is coming along nicely (check it out since the streetscape makeover). Howard has a ways to go. , I can post the nytimes link from the "where are the white people in chicago" thread. Most of the city is patchy, thats true.
Even NOH is improving if you look at the Census data(its also the only part of RP that is still majority black). It didnt get bad overnight and it wont get better overnight. By far NOH is the worst part of Rogers Park (north of howard). Looking at the census data south Evanston is improving as well. Pottawottamie ? spelling Park even has a dog park now, thats the park at rogers by clark. Gentrification is occuring throughout Rogers Park, the redline is more desireable IMHO because it takes you to wrigley field. LSD is closeby, so driving downtown is pretty easy, except now with the construction.
I dont know tons about the Irving Park neigbhorhood, its by the highway,
adjacent neigbhorhoods portage park and belmont craigin arent doing so hot. The retail strip on Irving Park is okay. Youve got six corners.
what are the official borders? You do have a great magazine store at six corners.
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11-13-2011, 09:44 AM
Location: Chicago
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keep in mind he's going to be working in naperville. would there be a worse commute that going from the NE side of the city to naperville?
Were I working in Naperville, I would live in Naperville. Or Downer's Grove, Wheaton, Lombard, or any other DuPage suburb. The city is just too far away and traffic in Chicagoland is terrible. If you want to be close to the city and still work in Naperville......I would investigate Forest Park or Oak Park. These suburbs have CTA access on both the Blue and Green Lines (be smart on both lines, but you should be fine) and they are much closer to Naperville. I agree with the above quote, short of living in Indiana and communting to Naperville, I don't think you could get much worse commute wise.
11-13-2011, 12:37 PM
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West Rp = West Ridge. Also depends on the part of West Ridge.
Check out Devon and Leavitt. Thats not too desireable, that whole area
south of Warren park is the pitts. Overall I find Rogers Park much more interesting than Irving Park. Rogers Park has the beach/lake/loyola. Morse is coming along nicely (check it out since the streetscape makeover). Howard has a ways to go. , I can post the nytimes link from the "where are the white people in chicago" thread. Most of the city is patchy, thats true.
Even NOH is improving if you look at the Census data(its also the only part of RP that is still majority black). It didnt get bad overnight and it wont get better overnight. By far NOH is the worst part of Rogers Park (north of howard). Looking at the census data south Evanston is improving as well. Pottawottamie ? spelling Park even has a dog park now, thats the park at rogers by clark. Gentrification is occuring throughout Rogers Park, the redline is more desireable IMHO because it takes you to wrigley field. LSD is closeby, so driving downtown is pretty easy, except now with the construction.
I dont know tons about the Irving Park neigbhorhood, its by the highway,
adjacent neigbhorhoods portage park and belmont craigin arent doing so hot. The retail strip on Irving Park is okay. Youve got six corners.
what are the official borders? You do have a great magazine store at six corners.
Irving Park
Actually, the area you're talking about is Old Irving Park, while is a little closer to 6 corners. Portage Park and Belmont Craigin are quite a way away from Irving park and really have nothing to do with it, nor do they affect Irving Park in any negative or positive way... they're just too far away. A lot of people in Irving Park partake in Lincoln Square as a main area for close entertainment. Irving Park is also A LOT closer to Wrigley Field then Rogers Park is... There are shuttles that take people to Wriggly on a regular basis during baseball season, and it's like a 5 - 10 minute drive form Irving, so if the attraction is Wriggly, Irving Park wins hands down.
I've had friends move out of different parts of Rogers Park because of shootings and the general level of crime. Had a friend that lived close to Loyola, and moved because someone was shot and killed sitting in their living room, by a gun that was fired out side of their building, with a bullet that was meant for someone else. Lots of blue light specials, which are not good signs. Generally, there are pros and cons to each area, and the individual has to make up their mind what's important to them, but I don't see Rogers Park changing in any large way in the near future, due to the job situation in the city, and general economic climate. There's not a lot of investment going on, and most areas are just trying to stay above water.
11-13-2011, 01:20 PM
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*yawn* For the last time, people, Old Irving Park is part of the Irving Park neighborhood . Do we have to make this announcement a sticky?
11-13-2011, 02:05 PM
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*yawn* For the last time, people, Old Irving Park is part of the Irving Park neighborhood . Do we have to make this announcement a sticky?
Duh, NO, they are 2 distinct areas!
Hence the difference in the name! If they were the same, they'd just be call IRVING PARK!
11-13-2011, 02:17 PM
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Duh, NO, they are 2 distinct areas! Hence the difference in the name! If they were the same, they'd just be call IRVING PARK!
Aside from how idiotic your logic is (you don't know what a subsection is?),
you're just plain wrong . One is part of the other.
11-13-2011, 02:29 PM
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Old Irving Park is in Irving Park. Not a tough concept to grasp.
11-13-2011, 06:06 PM
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Aside from how idiotic your logic is (you don't know what a subsection is?),
you're just plain wrong . One is part of the other.
We could go back and fourth where I call you an idiot... But it't pointless. I will say that old Irving is NOT a subsection but a different area. Just because they share a part of a name dose not make them the same. Now THAT shouldn't be a tough concept to grasp!
11-13-2011, 07:27 PM
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We could go back and fourth where I call you an idiot... But it't pointless. I will say that old Irving is NOT a subsection but a different area. Just because they share a part of a name dose not make them the same. Now THAT shouldn't be a tough concept to grasp!
You know you're pissing in the wind with your logic, yes? You're probably one of the few who subscribe to that logic.
11-13-2011, 08:19 PM
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You know you're pissing in the wind with your logic, yes? You're probably one of the few who subscribe to that logic.
I'll just move my head slightly, and the p*ss will splatter on the other posters that hold the other logic... there, problem solved.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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