Are you proud to say that you are from Illinois? (Chicago: areas, population)

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Okay, Mr. Literalist, if you're going by population, fine. In that case, the Illinois portion of Chicagoland vs. the rest of Illinois (8.7 million of 12.9 million) is a 67/33 split, not 80/20.

For the rest of us, who are not simpleton morons, we were speaking of cultural influence and impact, in which case NYC to Upstate New York is about 80/20 and Chicago to Downstate Illinois is about 90/10.



You edited your post for that? How long did it take you to come up with that zinger?

He thought LONG and HARD on that one.

[Heyooooo]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Okay, Mr. Literalist, if you're going by population, fine. In that case, the Illinois portion of Chicagoland vs. the rest of Illinois (8.7 million of 12.9 million) is a 67/33 split, not 80/20.

For the rest of us, who are not simpleton morons, we were speaking of cultural influence and impact, in which case NYC to Upstate New York is about 80/20 and Chicago to Downstate Illinois is about 90/10.

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Originally Posted by rparz

Isn't New York pretty similar? All the action is near the city, upstate gets progressively rural?

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

For the most part, yes, though New York has two more metro areas (Buffalo and Rochester) with over 1 million people, and at least two others (Albany and Syracuse) with over half a million. After Chicago, the largest metro area in Illinois is the Quad Cities with 380,000, part of which is in Iowa.

The biggest difference to me, though, is that rural Upstate New York has lots of beautiful mountains, lakes, and huge forests, while rural Downstate Illinois is nearly all farm land.

Originally Posted by MassVt

Once you get north of I-90 ( the Albany/Syracuse/Rochester/Buffalo line), the population really peters out, and you get into the deep forest, along with some dairying and paper milling ( the stench!), and the Adirondecks...

You were discussing culture and impact and not population? Really?

Here you go again, making things up in hopes of making yourself look better when you just look like an idiot.

Hopefully you were smacking yourself there.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Heyooooo

You were discussing culture and impact and not population? Really?

Not much for reading between the lines, are you?

Words like "rural" and phrases like "where the action is" have sociological implications that go beyond population numbers. I can't tell if you honestly didn't know that or if you're being obtuse. Either way, please fix it.

[Heyooooo]

Originally Posted by MassVt

He thought LONG and HARD on that one.

Man, you both are really getting a kick out of these homoerotic insults. You boys hiding something?

[Heyooooo]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Not much for reading between the lines, are you?

Words like "rural" and phrases like "where the action is" have sociological implications that go beyond population numbers. I can't tell if you honestly didn't know that or if you're being obtuse. Either way, please fix it.

Gee, silly me.

I guess I just got off track when you mentioned metro populations.

[Heyooooo]

Go ahead ChiNaan, keep backtracking.


"When I mentioned populations, I was really referring to uh... grass!" Yeah, grass! Thats it!"

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by Heyooooo

Man, you both are really getting a kick out of these homoerotic insults. You boys hiding something?

No, it's a common, everyday expression. You must be awfully young..

[Heyooooo]

Originally Posted by MassVt

No, it's a common, everyday expression. You must be awfully young..

You really stressed long and hard by putting it in caps. Thats not really common.

Seems to me like you were implying something more than their literal meaning.


Come on fellas, I know the internet is full of clowns and morons but youre making this too easy.

[Maintainschaos]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

For the most part, yes, though New York has two more metro areas (Buffalo and Rochester) with over 1 million people, and at least two others (Albany and Syracuse) with over half a million. After Chicago, the largest metro area in Illinois is the Quad Cities with 380,000, part of which is in Iowa.

After Chicago, the largest metro area in Illinois is the Metro East portion of Saint Louis at ~ 700,000 people; after that, the largest metro area completely in Illinois is Peoria, with ~ 375,000 people. Certainly the metro areas outside of Chicago are smaller than those outside of NYC, but I think the comparison is still apt; i.e., the overall influence of upstate NY is dwarfed by that of NYC, and likewise the overall influence of downstate IL is dwarfed by that of Chicagoland. The states are in relatively similar situations.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Maintainschaos

I think the comparison is still apt; i.e., the overall influence of upstate NY is dwarfed by that of NYC, and likewise the overall influence of downstate IL is dwarfed by that of Chicagoland. The states are in relatively similar situations.

I agree completely. I'd have left it at that and avoided delving into subtleties had I known anyone would be unable to follow.