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Old 04-06-2010, 06:24 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I think I like this car and can't wait to see how it does on the highway.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Just about any vehicle GM cranked out in the last 30 years. GM is still struggling to think outside the box. Listen, GM, screw the goddamn beancounters and design something to talk about.

You sir sound like a troll. Sorry.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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You sir sound like a troll. Sorry.
Why are you apologizing?

Tell me how you really feel.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Which vehicles did GM put out that were disappointments?

Are you speaking of any vehicles from this decade or are you talking about like a fifth generation Nova?

Hello? How about the "Cobalt"?
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Hello? How about the "Cobalt"?
to be fair the cobalt SS is faster than the subaru WRX STI and the mitsu EVO X on the track not bad for a little FWD chevy
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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Exactly. If the Cruze is supposed to be impressive, it ought to get 60-80MPG. I mean, the Chevette had .2 more liters and a power-sapping TH200 yet the MPGs are the same. Come on, GM.

If you could find a 1980s diesel subcompact that was originally sold in the USA, you can get upwards to 60MPG still.

It would appear that the 1973 oil crisis and the 1979 takeover was more effective at lighting fires under the automakers' asses than the 2008 $4/gal gas did.
You completely missed my point before, and you're comparing apples to oranges. The Cruze is larger and will weigh much more than a Chevette. Weight is the biggest factor in fuel economy. And unlike those 80's econoboxes, the Cruze won't be doing 0-60 in 15 seconds.

Again, what other automaker offers a modern non-hybrid C/D segment vehicle that gets 40 mpg? Answer: none.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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to be fair the cobalt SS is faster than the subaru WRX STI and the mitsu EVO X on the track not bad for a little FWD chevy
Okay, non-SS Cobalts.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Hello? How about the "Cobalt"?
Whats wrong with the Cobalt? It wasn't built to be a show car, it was built to compete with the Focus, Corolla etc. etc. and it does.

I own a Focus and I've driven a Corolla and Cobalt. There isn't anything spectacular about any of them, but I don't think theres supposed to be.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Whats wrong with the Cobalt? It wasn't built to be a show car, it was built to compete with the Focus, Corolla etc. etc. and it does.

I own a Focus and I've driven a Corolla and Cobalt. There isn't anything spectacular about any of them, but I don't think theres supposed to be.
Yes, the Cobalt was built to compete with the Corolla and Civic, Focus, etc... but never competed well on any level with those cars. Read any review out there you can find. It may have bested the Suzuki Forenza, if it was lucky, but that's about it.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Yes, the Cobalt was built to compete with the Corolla and Civic, Focus, etc... but never competed well on any level with those cars. Read any review out there you can find. It may have bested the Suzuki Forenza, if it was lucky, but that's about it.
I'm not real big into the "Reviews". I find most of them to be extemely biased and they ***** about the most asinine things which generally result in major point deductions.

When I want a review, I carry my butt down to the local dealership.
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