Charlotte to start process for 2011 annexation (Raleigh, Cleveland: low income, house, university)
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Charlotte is surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people who work here but yet because they live just outside of the city /county limits dont pay a dime in property taxes here. They flood out roads ,use our emergency services, drink our water, flush into our sewage system etc etc and pay nothing. They argue that they shop here,well its only to get the best prices they cant get where they live and believe me if gasoline is one cent higher here that their local station they wont even buy that here. Toll roads are a good thing because it makes those who use them pay for them , Charlotte does need a "payroll tax" . That way people that earn their paychecks here can leave some of it here. These day workers cry about having to give back to charlotte but yet without the jobs here many would have children with no shoes and wives who have to make cloths from old feed sacks....They indeed ,needs to pay up.
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Charlotte is surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people who work here but yet because they live just outside of the city /county limits dont pay a dime in property taxes here. They flood out roads ,use our emergency services, drink our water, flush into our sewage system etc etc and pay nothing. They argue that they shop here,well its only to get the best prices they cant get where they live and believe me if gasoline is one cent higher here that their local station they wont even buy that here. Toll roads are a good thing because it makes those who use them pay for them , Charlotte does need a "payroll tax" . That way people that earn their paychecks here can leave some of it here. These day workers cry about having to give back to charlotte but yet without the jobs here many would have children with no shoes and wives who have to make cloths from old feed sacks....They indeed ,needs to pay up.
Do you realize just how idiotic all of this sounds?
Do you even realize what good having healthy major companies in Charlotte does for your area? Between those companies paying taxes, charitable contributions, employment for people already living in Charlotte? Or would you rather have those companies just up and leave, laying more waste to Charlotte than you could possibly imagine.
*No, it won't go back to the way it was because it's a little too late for that*
Should Cabarrus county tax Charlotte every time the races come to town? I'm sure there has to be more than one attendee from Charlotte taxing our sewage system, our water, using our emergency services, shopping at our stores. I think you guys need to pay up each time those races hit.
Even if YOU yourself never attend. We'll just victimize you based on your proximity.
There's your annexation using your own ideology. Utterly ridiculous.
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Charlotte is surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people who work here but yet because they live just outside of the city /county limits dont pay a dime in property taxes here. They flood out roads ,use our emergency services, drink our water, flush into our sewage system etc etc and pay nothing. They argue that they shop here,well its only to get the best prices they cant get where they live and believe me if gasoline is one cent higher here that their local station they wont even buy that here. Toll roads are a good thing because it makes those who use them pay for them , Charlotte does need a "payroll tax" . That way people that earn their paychecks here can leave some of it here. These day workers cry about having to give back to charlotte but yet without the jobs here many would have children with no shoes and wives who have to make cloths from old feed sacks....They indeed ,needs to pay up.
Oh lord, I thought that you had gotten close to proposing a city wage tax, but now you got to it. That's the official name for your proposal.
I paid the Philadelphia City wage tax for years.
Guess what, they are such a nightmare for the accountants that companies leave cities because of them.
No problem with a "race day" tax. Tax the ones that benefit from it. We in Charlotte should tax the ones that benefit from Charlotte with legal anexation . Those who work here and yet dont own property here pay very little compared to those who do....The day workers needs to pay up.Let cabarrus county create any kind of tax they want to because afterall they cant tax in Mecklenburg and Meckleburg has no right to impose any taxes THERE.
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No problem with a "race day" tax. Tax the ones that benefit from it. We in Charlotte should tax the ones that benefit from Charlotte with legal anexation . Those who work here and yet dont own property here pay very little compared to those who do....The day workers needs to pay up.Let cabarrus county create any kind of tax they want to because afterall they cant tax in Mecklenburg and Meckleburg has no right to impose any taxes THERE.
And you don't think Charlotte benefits from people coming there, eating there, shopping there and working there?
Seriously, what planet are you currently floating on?
You've never used another county's road system, I'm guessing. Never used roads outside of Charlotte to visit, buy anything..maybe worked...I don't know.... Because if you turn your logic around you'll see how chopped it is.
You're using entirely different logic.
Annexation is indended to shift the burden toward people who live on the fringe of city limits. It is not intended to shift the burden to anyone and everyone who has ever used city services.
I understand if this difference is too subtle for you to grasp, but I assure you there is a difference between the two groups.
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You're using entirely different logic.
Annexation is indended to shift the burden toward people who live on the fringe of city limits. It is not intended to shift the burden to anyone and everyone who has ever used city services.
I understand if this difference is too subtle for you to grasp, but I assure you there is a difference between the two groups.
I see it more as.......
A city that has spent it's money foolishly (say as in...oh I don't know.....A NASCAR Museum that went millions over-budget and has returned them a buck fifty on their "invetment") and now is trying to reach out it's long tenticles and fangs; to leetch as much money possible from the surrounding counties.
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You're using entirely different logic.
Annexation is indended to shift the burden toward people who live on the fringe of city limits. It is not intended to shift the burden to anyone and everyone who has ever used city services.
I understand if this difference is too subtle for you to grasp, but I assure you there is a difference between the two groups.
In case your reading and comprehension skills aren't up to par you'll see NativeChef wants the burden shifted to anyone who works and benefits from Charlotte, that they "needs to pay up". That's the point I was addressing.
A city that has spent it's money foolishly (say as in...oh I don't know.....A NASCAR Museum that went millions over-budget and has returned them a buck fifty on their "invetment") and now is trying to reach out it's long tenticles and fangs; to leetch as much money possible from the surrounding counties.
This may very well be true.
But it doesn't address the Free Rider problem that cities must deal with.
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