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View Poll Results: Will you vote for marijuana legalization for adults?
yes 53 75.71%
no 17 24.29%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-25-2009, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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^About the withdrawal sympptoms. I am addicted to marijuana and haven't gone a night without it in over a year. Although they do not necessarily interfere with my life, they are annoying. The withdrawal symptoms i speak of are things like insomnia, loss of appetite, increased boredome. Nothing major, but still withdrawal symptoms

 
Old 12-25-2009, 02:01 AM
 
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^About the withdrawal sympptoms. I am addicted to marijuana and haven't gone a night without it in over a year. Although they do not necessarily interfere with my life, they are annoying. The withdrawal symptoms i speak of are things like insomnia, loss of appetite, increased boredome. Nothing major, but still withdrawal symptoms
Not psysiologically due to marijuana. It could be tied to other psychological factors. In fact, rereading the post again, your "withdrawal" I assure you that there are other underlying reasons (the bordem and insomnia were tipp offs).

Marijuana addiction is again psychological in nature, thus any withdrawal will be related to the underlying reasons for your marijuana reliance. This is unlike alcohol in which you gain a psysiological dependence (your body will need alcohol to function).
 
Old 12-25-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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^Withdrawal symptoms have nothing to do with having a dependence or not. Why don't you check out Erowid.org and read about cannabis. There are in fact withdrawal symptoms. They are easy to live with, but they are w/d symptoms nonetheless.
 
Old 12-25-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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With low health risks associated, I don't know why people would vote against this measure.
It's called holding onto strictly held beliefs. As a society for so long, we had made marijuana usage such a taboo subject, that its 2nd nature to many people to view it as bad.

If you ask them the specifics of what makes marijuana bad, its usually something along the lines of "its illegal" or "its a drug", which are both extremely poor arguments since the question of marijuana being bad doesn't revolve around some legalist notion of what's right or wrong (who the hell ever decides what is right or wrong based on the law?) or some definition of a term that fits their purposes. However, these have become such embedded norms in our society that to question it is sacrilege. However, as time moves on and medical technology moves forward, we are beginning to see a more balanced view on marijuana without any of the emotional attachment arguments held irrationally by those who are too lazy to even do a bit of research.
 
Old 12-25-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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No, it wouldnt be a dangerous at all.
Yes, it is, first it's marijuana, then what? I've been high before, it took me twice as long to get anywhere, Me today wouldn't want to be on the same road as Me when I was in high school. Like some people said, there are enough drunk drivers, let alone stoned drivers out there. In a perfect world, people that chose to smoke, would stay home and not drive, but we don't live in a perfect world.
 
Old 12-25-2009, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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^Withdrawal symptoms have nothing to do with having a dependence or not. Why don't you check out Erowid.org and read about cannabis. There are in fact withdrawal symptoms. They are easy to live with, but they are w/d symptoms nonetheless.
Yes, but it's not a physiological withdraw as an alcoholic experiences when giving up booze or a heroin user experiences when kicking or a cigarette smoker experiences when quitting the nicotine.
The boredom is a given unless you find a way to expand your energy field and your consciousness without the aid of pot and that is do-able ... just takes some work.
And sleeplessness ... yeah, i need a hit or two to fall asleep as well.
No problem ... better than ambien or other man made sleeping aids.

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Old 12-25-2009, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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It's called holding onto strictly held beliefs. As a society for so long, we had made marijuana usage such a taboo subject, that its 2nd nature to many people to view it as bad.

If you ask them the specifics of what makes marijuana bad, its usually something along the lines of "its illegal" or "its a drug", which are both extremely poor arguments since the question of marijuana being bad doesn't revolve around some legalist notion of what's right or wrong (who the hell ever decides what is right or wrong based on the law?) or some definition of a term that fits their purposes. However, these have become such embedded norms in our society that to question it is sacrilege. However, as time moves on and medical technology moves forward, we are beginning to see a more balanced view on marijuana without any of the emotional attachment arguments held irrationally by those who are too lazy to even do a bit of research.
Or it's called demonizing / brainwashing by the dominant culture in service to their agenda of, in part, keeping people sheepled and controlled.
Not the best article but some food (or a few seeds) for thought.
The War on Drugs is a War on Consciousness
 
Old 12-25-2009, 04:59 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I notice that no one mentioned why mj was made illegal in the first place......racism.
It made illegal b/c of the fear of the immigration of mexicans.
History of Marijuana - MarijuanaToday.com

Personally, I think that it should be made legal. Use the taxes to fight the harder drugs and help the economy get on track. There are also states such as Kentucky that would also come out as winners if legalized. The eviromentalist would be happy b/c less trees would be cut down (hemp is agood source for paper products and does not contribute to land erosion). The drug cartels would have to rely on cocaine instead of MJ for revenue (and truthfully may cut down on cocaine addiction). The prisons would not be as crowded (saving tax dollars). Quite a few of our presidents has had some dealings with marijuana in one form or another.
 
Old 12-25-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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^Withdrawal symptoms have nothing to do with having a dependence or not. Why don't you check out Erowid.org and read about cannabis. There are in fact withdrawal symptoms. They are easy to live with, but they are w/d symptoms nonetheless.

That's what I learned just passing on the knowledge that was taught to me. Yes, having physiological dependence is indeed needed for withdrawal symptoms.
 
Old 12-25-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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Yes, it is, first it's marijuana, then what? I've been high before, it took me twice as long to get anywhere, Me today wouldn't want to be on the same road as Me when I was in high school. Like some people said, there are enough drunk drivers, let alone stoned drivers out there. In a perfect world, people that chose to smoke, would stay home and not drive, but we don't live in a perfect world.
I smoked in high school, went to college and applying for some more school. Some people can't handle controlled substances. The whole gateway drug theory is flawed. You can say water leads to alcohol, therefore is it reasonable to conclude that water leads to alcoholism? No.

As for high driving, there needs to be more studies done. The studies conducted contain conflicting data and usually have small sample sizes.
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