Propositions crash and burn:1a,b,c,d,e No,1f Yes (San Francisco: sale, crime)

[majoun]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

The LA Times is the West Coast edition of Pravda.Collectivist positions such as this are the reason I stopped reading it decades ago.

FYI, Pravda is now right wing and very anti-Marxist although it's run by the same people.

Also, the LA Times is a pretty moderate newspaper. Now if you were talking about the unabashedly liberal SF Chronicle you'd have a point.

[Ludachris]

Looks like Arnold is planning on using this vote to his advantage somehow - or maybe just way of preparing to deflect the outrage when the tough cuts are actually made:
Schwarzenegger says he's heard voters' anger - More politics- msnbc.com

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by krock1dk

Its going to come to the point where Californians will have to vote with their feet.

A friend in OC tells me that if the migration out of California continues at this rate, by the next election OC may lose a congressman. I voted last year ( with feet, along with a train full of people who recently did too and were going back to visit for Thanksgiving). If only this had taken one more year to happen. My son still has his senior year in high school to finish.

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by nightbird47

A friend in OC tells me that if the migration out of California continues at this rate, by the next election OC may lose a congressman. I voted last year ( with feet, along with a train full of people who recently did too and were going back to visit for Thanksgiving). If only this had taken one more year to happen. My son still has his senior year in high school to finish.

I'm planning on getting out, too. Just heard this morning that CA politicians (dems) voted for more fees (can't call them "taxes", but that's what they are). They scoffed that because so few people voted, they didn't need to actually "hear" what we were saying.

This state is doomed.

[rjca]

Im so glad our state said "no" to the fear-mongering. Every single time a vote comes up it's the exact same scare tactic. This is the first time I recall people actually acknowledging that their fears are being manipulated.

You would think the only thing the state was funding was teachers, police, and firefighters. If the sate was so streamlined we wouldn't be in this mess.

[FresnoFacts]

Looking at the statewide results 1A thru 1E failed.

But in San Francisco, Santa Cruz County and Santa Clara County Prop 1B got over 50% YES votes. What the?????

Election Results - California Secretary of State (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/props/map1B.htm - broken link)

[Icy Tea]

Start taxing salty snacks and sodas.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by steelstress

Just recently (last 60 days?) the city of Vallejo, CA filed bankruptcy and a judge has determined that the city can now renegotiate union contracts. Seems to me the precedent has been set... let's hope CA follows Vallejo's example!

BANKRUPTCY! BANKRUPTCY! BANKRUPTCY!

But that's a city. Orange County went BK in the 90's. But I think a state is a different ballgame. Maybe they can exercise their right of eminent domain to nullify those union contracts for the greater good of the people. I'd like to see the legal argument on that one.

[cvlp]

Originally Posted by Charles22

I read that this is going to cause CA to become bankrupt by July. Do you believe that?

oh. I thought we already were.
count me among the "stupid voters"

[Ludachris]

Originally Posted by Icy Tea

Start taxing salty snacks and sodas.

or porn - imagine how much tax revenue they could bring in then! LOL