Coronavirus (Los Angeles: home, school, living)

[Carpenter858]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

When that's all we're likely to ever get, I will take it. It is better than anecdotes from anonymous Internet strangers. It's long been clear to me that many non-severe cases aren't mild, even in fully vaccinated, reasonably healthy, non-elderly people, and I haven't heard any respected medical personnel disputing that, even re breakthrough infections. I say it wouldn't make sense that there's little middle ground between mild infections and the cases that are still putting many people in the hospital.

What? Almost all doctors say non-severe cases are mild, unless you still actually believe idiots Sanjay Gupta, Jha, Fraudci, or Walensky.

[goodheathen]

"Almost all doctors" as in "almost none." It can be mild, it can be much worse. Much of it is luck. It's the minimizers - non-medical people - who are insisting it's always mild for healthy people because they don't want to make any sacrifices.

I have yet to hear why we should be living like it's 1940, where brief, normal activities (besides driving) almost always have a non-negligible chance of causing significant negative health consequences.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by cleosmom

So an opinion in a rag has more validation because you see a picture than folks here in this forum? That makes zero sense! Both of my husband's parents, who are in their early 90s, had Covid last year and both are still alive and well today. Why? Because of no comorbidities, but more due to the power of prayer. Before you ask, yes they both got their jabs and wore masks.

Okay. Some of that is your opinion, but ultimately because that's hardly newsworthy and they presumably aren't professional writers or famous people, the media would not publish an article about that.

[wac_432]

Originally Posted by sav858

Is COVID losing its fangs and becoming more like the flu?

Death rates, or case fatality ratios, reflect the number of reported deaths as a percentage of known cases. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported an estimated 29 million flu illnesses and 28,000 deaths nationally in 2018-19, a death rate of 0.1%. For the season before that, there were 41 million flu-related illnesses and 52,000 deaths, a rate of 0.13%.

Lemp said California Department of Public Health data show that California’s COVID-19 death rate early in the pandemic, from February 2020 to May 2021, was 1.7% overall and dropped to 1.11% when the delta variant hit from July to December 2021.

When the even more transmissible omicron variant BA.1 hit from December through February, the rate fell to 0.34%. The most recent data with the omicron sub-variants BA.4 and BA.5 from June and July show a rate of 0.38%.

That’s still about three times deadlier than the official flu rates for recent pre-COVID seasons. But Lemp noted that many people use rapid at-home antigen test kits and don’t report the results, so experts estimate true case numbers likely are two to four times higher.

That would conservatively put the death rates from the current omicron BA.5 variant around 0.19%, a more flu-like level, he said. Though death rates are progressively higher with age, they have declined in all age groups.

Sounds like the eastbaytimes copied my post from a week or two ago.

We should all be pleased that the theory of diminishing virulence of new viruses proved true for COVID.

[goodheathen]

Flu deaths and other significant consequences extrapolated from winters in cold climates to everywhere year-round would be a major problem, maybe around as bad as things are now. People are taking flu for granted and also acting like it and COVID-19 can't in any given year mutate into a nastier version. "This is fine," so goes the fire meme.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Sounds like the eastbaytimes copied my post from a week or two ago.

We should all be pleased that the theory of diminishing virulence of new viruses proved true for COVID.

Exactly. The only thing we got right. The vax/mask/freaking out we did not. People are STILL running with hysteria.

[stablegenius]

Is this thread seriously still going? The CDC may not have declared Covid endemic, but I work for a major, woke tech company who is having a two day meeting and they just called in endemic. When the companies start deciding that we're moving on, we're moving on, regardless what the CDC says. Maybe this thread should move on as well...

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Okay. Some of that is your opinion, but ultimately because that's hardly newsworthy and they presumably aren't professional writers or famous people, the media would not publish an article about that.

There wasn't a smidge of opinion in my previous post, nothing but facts!

[goodheathen]

The CDC has changed a number of recommendations. Most changes I don't like, but more stringent testing after infection I do like. I think most companies will abide by that, which will keep people from returning to work prematurely and spreading the virus.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/c8ce...d-get-two.html

Also, despite some pro-Evusheld talk from the CDC, it reportedly isn't working well vs. recent subvariants. So much for "tools."

I will continue to stay uninfected if at all possible. Multiple infections will not be good for you "pandemic is over" people. And calling it "endemic" instead doesn't make the virus any safer.

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

The CDC has changed a number of recommendations. Most changes I don't like, but more stringent testing after infection I do like. I think most companies will abide by that, which will keep people from returning to work prematurely and spreading the virus.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/c8ce...d-get-two.html

Also, despite some pro-Evusheld talk from the CDC, it reportedly isn't working well vs. recent subvariants. So much for "tools."

I will continue to stay uninfected if at all possible. Multiple infections will not be good for you "pandemic is over" people. And calling it "endemic" instead doesn't make the virus any safer.

Interesting interpretation,I didn't read anything about more stringent testing I did surmise that it is the same protocol that mature folks have been doing for years; if you're sick, stay home and don't get up in other people's grills.