Something Is Happening in Southern California (Los Angeles, San Francisco: 2014, houses, schools)

[RosieSD]

Originally Posted by thrillobyte

The population is exploding here in the Northern corridor which includes Pasadena, Eagle Rock, Glendale, and Burbank. It's like the population increased 10x's in the last 5 years.

I always like to look at data on questions like this.

According to the California State Dept. of Finance which does population counts in between the Federal Census, here's how the population has changed in three of the cities you mentioned above in the last 5 years:

Pasadena: 2017 population: 143,333 2016: 140,960 2015: 140,310 2014: 140,149 2013: 139,663 2012: 139,600

Glendale: 2017: 201,748 2016: 200,600 2015: 199,574 2014: 196,648 2013: 194,813 2012: 194,037

Burbank: 2017: 105,033 2016: 105,046 2015: 105,207 2014: 105,019 2013: 104,739 2012: 104,732

So, in these three cities the population has definitely grown in the last five years, but it certainly hasn't exploded or increased 10xs.

I don't have figures for Eagle Rock, but I doubt the population there has increased 10xs in the last five years either.

If you're curious about the data for additional surrounding areas, you can find it here:

General Estimated Population by City in Los Angeles County, California

Still, even slower growth or a shift in the areas where people are living and working can definitely change traffic patterns, so I don't doubt you're noticing more traffic.

The building you're seeing going on is happening in a lot of places. But, it's not necessarily due to an exploding population growth.

After the recession, new housing starts pretty much dried up in most of Southern California, and that has led to a shortage of housing for all of the people who want it. So, in the last couple of years, builders have been ramping new housing starts up steadily to fill demand.

The problem is that there just isn't a lot of land left for mega-new housing developments in cities like Burbank, Pasadena, and Glendale. So that's pushing developers to slap up more multi-unit denser developments.

That makes some sense if you think about it. A lot of younger people don't see themselves living in the traditional "suburban" areas; they want to be closer to more urban amenities. And, baby boomers are retiring and downsizing too. They want smaller places to live and they want to be closer to amenities too.

Anyhow, you'll likely continue to see steady population growth in areas like this for those reasons. But, it does sort of have a cap on it, due to the limits on the space available to meet demand for housing like this.

If you're concerned about traffic in your local area, go to city council meetings and get involved with citizen groups working to find solutions like increased public transportation options.

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

I also bring equity, hundreds of thousands and im part of California's natural culture which is healthier for society.

Your attitude on these forums seems to be abrasive, snobby and misinformed a many topics, I wouldn't call that healthier for CA.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by davidt1

Older, fed up, or priced out native Californians are moving elsewhere. Thanks to our lax immigration policy, they are quickly replaced by foreigners from China, India, Armenia, etc., and of course Mexico. I know of many ladies who married Americans to become citizens so they can bring their parents here. That number is relatively small compared to illegal immigration from Mexico though.

Yes the majority of residents in CA are now Hispanic not "white".

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by Rheinhardt

How much do you spend annually in the california economy?

Near 0 because I'm forced to save and invest nearly every penny. But money does go through me to make purchases of which I keep the difference.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Yes the majority of residents in CA are now Hispanic not "white".

Some of whom are the children of people who were "white"

[majoun]

First off this should be in the L.A. forum.

Burbank for a long time, although heavily favored on C-D, wasn't as well known as other communities with low crime and good schools, and was more reasonably priced than some nearby neighborhoods with higher crime and bad schools. That couldn't last forever. Particularly with the Chinese coming in. There are some Burbank residents who are scared the city will turn into Arcadia or San Marino. Glendale is not quite as nice as Burbank, and the schools are not as good as Burbank, but it does have low crime, and is finally being discovered by people who only now are recognizing it's a better value for money than Silver Lake, Echo Park, or Atwater Village, with safety and schools being superior. Construction ihas taken off. (In large part due to cities wanting to raise money in order to pay for their pensions)

Eagle Rock is part of LAUSD and thus has crap schools (albeit less bad than most in LAUSD) but it is a really nice neighborhood which is cheaper than its westside equivalent Cheviot Hills, or other similar areas on the westside like Culver City. It was only a matter of time until it was discovered. But it certainly has been discovered.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by Rheinhardt

What do you mean money goes through you if you are spending 0.

I buy something for someone else i.e. Lunch and get paid back and get lunch comped.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Yes the majority of residents in CA are now Hispanic not "white".

Westminster was white too before there was white flight. Detroit too

why they left?

[11thHour]

Originally Posted by max210

I have noticed as this as well. People come from other states, they have job offers and that dream of living it big in CA. Give them a year or two until they're complaining about the high COL. This is purely anecdotal of course.

Count me among this. Have only lived here several months and our place is back on the market already and we're moving back where we came from. It's crazy expensive out here and all the little things add up mighty damn fast. Wasn't worth it imo. We're both lucky to have jobs that lets us live wherever so it won't affect us that way so we're outta here.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 11thHour

Count me among this. Have only lived here several months and our place is back on the market already and we're moving back where we came from. It's crazy expensive out here and all the little things add up mighty damn fast. Wasn't worth it imo. We're both lucky to have jobs that lets us live wherever so it won't affect us that way so we're outta here.

Where are you moving back to? I don't blame you. It's really hard to move here now a days and make it. If I hadn't bought my place in 02 I would be forced to move out and I'm a native.