You Are Not Free In California (Montclair, Barstow: credit, home, live)

[sunshine7793]

I recall a news story about a family who wanted to build a house on their land north of Morro Bay. The location where they wanted to build could not be seen from any road or from another house. But they were denied permission by the coastal commission. The reason? The house location could be seen from the ocean. Bizarre. The family fought the coastal commission at considerable cost and grief. And won. But what nerve! Trying to stop you from building within sight of the ocean?!

Coastal Commission Fails Attempt To Control Views From The Ocean

These bureaucrat goons are out of control. And CA deserves the lousy ranking it got on the freedom index.

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by sunshine7793

I recall a news story about a family who wanted to build a house on their land north of Morro Bay. The location where they wanted to build could not be seen from any road or from another house. But they were denied permission by the coastal commission. The reason? The house location could be seen from the ocean. Bizarre. The family fought the coastal commission at considerable cost and grief. And won. But what nerve! Trying to stop you from building within sight of the ocean?!

Coastal Commission Fails Attempt To Control Views From The Ocean

These bureaucrat goons are out of control. And CA deserves the lousy ranking it got on the freedom index.

Okay, well enjoy your freedom in craphole, North Dakota, while I enjoy my prison in beautiful California! LOL

It's quite sad when people get so worked up over politics that it makes themselves miss out on life.

[ambient]

Originally Posted by sunshine7793

I recall a news story about a family who wanted to build a house on their land north of Morro Bay. The location where they wanted to build could not be seen from any road or from another house. But they were denied permission by the coastal commission. The reason? The house location could be seen from the ocean. Bizarre. The family fought the coastal commission at considerable cost and grief. And won. But what nerve! Trying to stop you from building within sight of the ocean?!

Coastal Commission Fails Attempt To Control Views From The Ocean

These bureaucrat goons are out of control. And CA deserves the lousy ranking it got on the freedom index.

All I can tell you is that I live in CA, make a good living, get to do pretty much whatever I reasonably choose, and really don't feel like I'm missing out on anything right now.

[aboveordinary]

Originally Posted by sponger42

Huh. How about that. I guess I didn't just bike down from the house, that I own, to the point to go surfing for a few hours Sunday. Then I didn't grab a shower and a bagel and walk my family to church. Afterwards, I didn't visit with friends and neighbors for a bit before spending the afternoon doing some yard work and then spending a bit more time with the family before the workweek began.

No, that was a dream. In reality, I spent the weekend in the nanny state government housing project with my government-mandated same-sex life partner. I wasn't allowed outside to minimize my ecological footprint, I sure as heck wasn't allowed to even THINK a religious thought, and the government-owned utilities were shut off a dusk to ensure a zero carbon emissions day mandate.

The freedoms I dreamed I had are clearly only available to me if I own an arsenal of assault rifles and a Ford Excursion SUV to carry them to the border in Texas, or some other equally awful place, to spend all my free time "defending" my freedoms against terrorists and socialists by eating a lot of processed meat and starches and complaining about how Obama[care] is the worst thing to happen to America since the War of 1812.

Thanks for setting me straight.

This made me laugh especially the last paragraph!

[aboveordinary]

"No freedom in California" basically translates into "I love guns but CA won't let me shoot them anywhere I want or carry them wherever I want." The only freedom a lot of righties seem to care about is about guns. To hell with gays, the environment, the poor! As long as I got my guns!

[Think4Yourself]

Originally Posted by sunshine7793

I recall a news story about a family who wanted to build a house on their land north of Morro Bay. The location where they wanted to build could not be seen from any road or from another house. But they were denied permission by the coastal commission. The reason? The house location could be seen from the ocean. Bizarre. The family fought the coastal commission at considerable cost and grief. And won. But what nerve! Trying to stop you from building within sight of the ocean?!

Coastal Commission Fails Attempt To Control Views From The Ocean

These bureaucrat goons are out of control. And CA deserves the lousy ranking it got on the freedom index.

The main problem is the endless and constant law suits people keep filing against all of their neighbors over claims of obstructing coast views. Sadly, those views can make millions of dollars of difference in property values so they're worth suing over and they're clogging the state courts. Thus the desire to set clear laws to help settle these matters BEFORE they get to court. Naturally, not being inclined to think even a little before ranting like a mad man, you are having difficulty understanding even something as basic as this.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by sunshine7793

When I say taxes are ridiculously high I mean to say that our tax policy punishes and discourages hard work and success. Anyone not believe that?

I don't. My gross income has doubled over the last 10 years, and I don't feel neither discouraged nor penalized. Not even a little bit.

[sponger42]

Originally Posted by chuckmann

Your snarkiness is noted. Now go read the law regarding who has an interest in your home under what circumstances and what you can and cannot do about it. I've had some heated conversations with the police about just those things. Have you?

No, because I'm not trying to deny the public access to the coast below the mean high tide line, build a nuclear reactor in my back yard, or keep a rusting collection of hundreds of burnt-out junk heaps in my yard in the middle of the county's watershed.

But you are right; there's plenty of things I can't do with my property because the local/state government won't let me. They are all either stupid, dangerous, or encroach on the freedoms of my neighbors and fellow citizens. I could just not be a d--khead and not do them, or I can butt heads with the county about it and then whine on the internet about my freedoms being taken away when I get called on trying to violate the laws of just plain old common sense and neighborliness.

And for extra snark:

[zombocom]

Originally Posted by sunshine7793

Anyone surprised by this? Not me considering our out-of-control legislature.

Freedom in the 50 States 2013 | Overall Freedom | Mercatus Center

Travel freedom is low because of seat belt laws?

Interesting website.

Originally Posted by sunshine7793

If you designate someone's private property as unfit for the purpose for which he in good faith bought it you have essentially taken/stolen it. He may have owned it for decades before the unelected bureaucrats declare it unusable. That's just tough luck for him. Happens a lot in CA and less in places with more economic freedom.

The idea that land zoning is a bad idea is... well, a bad idea.

[DMenscha]

Perhaps Gloom7793 would be a better moniker.