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Old 01-22-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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The current interglacial is definitely not without end. It will end.

Then we'll have a real problem (at least we will after a few hundred years).
Try stopping mile+ thick glaciers with electric cars and Al Gore. Goodbye, New York City. Remember kids, Long Island was made by glacial debris ~21,000 years ago. They'll be back.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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Try stopping mile+ thick glaciers with electric cars and Al Gore. Goodbye, New York City. Remember kids, Long Island was made by glacial debris ~21,000 years ago. They'll be back.
The other even more major issue will be the inevitable decline in sea level.

That will wipe out a number of avenues of sea commerce not to mention many ecosystems. A receding sea is much more difficult than a rising sea in terms of succession. Especially if / when the edge of the continental shelf is revealed. Many shallows would be gone in that scenario, a true disaster and an unstoppable significant extinction event.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The other even more major issue will be the inevitable decline in sea level.

That will wipe out a number of avenues of sea commerce not to mention many ecosystems. A receding sea is much more difficult than a rising sea in terms of succession. Especially if / when the edge of the continental shelf is revealed. Many shallows would be gone in that scenario, a true disaster and an unstoppable significant extinction event.
In what scenario do you see sea levels falling?
 
Old 01-24-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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In what scenario do you see sea levels falling?
I assume Billy is thinking Ice age...


Which is a very interesting senerio... Personally I am pleased with the move away from saying "global warming" to saying "climate change"..

Sure overall the global average temp. may increase, but that does not mean places like Europe will not be under a mile of ice...

Back to the great ocean conveyor.. If it stops or slows warm currents cease to warm places like Europe.., which is at a quite high latitude... Result... Ice, and much greater amounts of fresh water locked up in glaciers, hence lowering sea levels..
 
Old 01-24-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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The ocean levels changing is insignificant compared to the greater disaster in the making.
The Pacific Ocean Is Dying: Special Report On Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe
 
Old 01-24-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I assume Billy is thinking Ice age...


Which is a very interesting senerio... Personally I am pleased with the move away from saying "global warming" to saying "climate change"..

Sure overall the global average temp. may increase, but that does not mean places like Europe will not be under a mile of ice...

Back to the great ocean conveyor.. If it stops or slows warm currents cease to warm places like Europe.., which is at a quite high latitude... Result... Ice, and much greater amounts of fresh water locked up in glaciers, hence lowering sea levels..
Yes I say climate change because most people oversimplify the term "global warming". Europe will get colder but glaciers won't build up overnight. It takes thousands of years for those types of glaciers to develop. In the mean time the melting of the Greenland ice will raise sea levels by 20 feet. The melting of Antarctica would raise sea levels by 100 feet. It took 10's of thousands of years for those glaciers to lock up that much water. In places where glaciers from, precipitation is generally low so the ice takes some time to build and then compact into a glacier.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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The melting of the Greenland Ice is a serious threat, right now water is percolating to the rock below the ice, lubricating it. One Scenario has the Greenland Ice Cap simply sliding off into the North Atlantic, which will immediately stop the Gulf Stream, plunging much of Europe and Britain into deep winter, year round.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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The ocean levels changing is insignificant compared to the greater disaster in the making.
The Pacific Ocean Is Dying: Special Report On Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe
Don! Good to hear from you!

Apparently the move to Tennessee did nothing to improve your dour outlook on life ... but never mind all that ... how's the boating? Did you get out this past year? Or still too busy moving in? How's the fishing?

Fortunately, for you, the Pacific dying won't immediately affect the east coast river and lake fishing. You've still got time to enjoy the bass and perch and crappies, etc.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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The melting of the Greenland Ice is a serious threat, right now water is percolating to the rock below the ice, lubricating it. One Scenario has the Greenland Ice Cap simply sliding off into the North Atlantic, which will immediately stop the Gulf Stream, plunging much of Europe and Britain into deep winter, year round.
Not gonna happen anytime soon, if ever.
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