Brain drain: even college students are fleeing California (credit, tech jobs)

[DMenscha]

Originally Posted by steel7

I heard on the radio today (kfi am640) that the economy is actually getting worse even though the obama admin says its getting better. I myself should of gone to college when i had the chance or at least gotten a govt job.

In spite of the economic indicators all over the board that say it is better. Perhaps it's not growing as fast as we would like it, but it is growing nonetheless.

[jw2]

2012 University admissions.(from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...kE&output=html )


8 of the top 10 applications are from California. I would say that people do want to attend college in California.


Applied Accepted
72,657 15,455 U.C.L.A.
61,702 13,038 U. of California, Berkeley
60,838 22,939 U. of California, San Diego
54,831 22,803 U. of California, Santa Barbara
54,532 19,806 U. of California, Irvine
49,416 22,538 U. of California, Davis
46,030 8,381 .U. of Southern California
43,979 19,589 Boston U.
37,812 6,123 .Cornell (N.Y.)
36,631 2,427 .Stanford (Calif.)

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by DMenscha

In spite of the economic indicators all over the board that say it is better. Perhaps it's not growing as fast as we would like it, but it is growing nonetheless.

In SLO and Santa Barbara counties, home sales are up, new starts are up.

[nullgeo]

Sorry to hear of that misfortune ...

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Sorry to hear of that misfortune ...

I thought I would try to cheer up the complainers.

[kttam186290]

Did anyone bother to take into consideration the fact that I can sit at my computer in Los Angeles and technically be a student and "go to school" at Arizona State University?

Ever hear of online learning?

It's new and lots of people are doing it. Lots of college-age people don't have to leave California anymore to go to school in other states.

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by mattk92681

Did anyone bother to take into consideration the fact that I can sit at my computer in Los Angeles and technically be a student and "go to school" at Arizona State University?

Ever hear of online learning?

It's new and lots of people are doing it. Lots of college-age people don't have to leave California anymore to go to school in other states.

Unless it's a cohort program, otherwise yes. E-learning, not much good if your desire to be an Engineer at least the undergraduate level.

[Fern435]

California may not have as many colleges for students to attend:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/us...me&ref=general

Very sad to see California in this situation.

[pkennedy1990]

Originally Posted by jw2

Oh yes, our very best strive for Boise State or Arizona State.

No, California's cream of the crop goes away to Harvard/Yale/Princeton, Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown, Johns Hopkins, or Columbia.

Now, granted, for a California-raised person the East Coast is a bit HARSH to try to live in post-graduation. The competition for jobs there is FIERCE and that tends to drive us back out West.

[pkennedy1990]

Originally Posted by jw2

2012 University admissions.(from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...kE&output=html )


8 of the top 10 applications are from California. I would say that people do want to attend college in California.


Applied Accepted
72,657 15,455 U.C.L.A.
61,702 13,038 U. of California, Berkeley
60,838 22,939 U. of California, San Diego
54,831 22,803 U. of California, Santa Barbara
54,532 19,806 U. of California, Irvine
49,416 22,538 U. of California, Davis
46,030 8,381 .U. of Southern California
43,979 19,589 Boston U.
37,812 6,123 .Cornell (N.Y.)
36,631 2,427 .Stanford (Calif.)

People who go to the UC system from out-of-state have tons of money to spend because the UC being a "state" supported system, doesn't offer much in the way of financial aid if your parents make over the poverty level but not enough to pay the tuition out-of-pocket happily (that was my situation back in the 80s). The Ivies and the other "elite" universities, on the other hand, do offer full-tuition packages for those students who are in the "lower middle class." It's not a secret: Harvard, Yale and Princeton have it out on their websites.