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But if you are missing "it" it doesnt matter. He isnt even the go to guy on his own team at crunch time
He is fun to watch but will never be at the same level as others without "it"
That wasn't the question.
I would say that lebron is a top 5 athlete in nba history. D Howard I would say is arguably as much a great athlete. He isn't as fast but has as much "hops", is much bigger and much stronger. A guy like wilt would be in that conversation to me.
I would say that lebron is a top 5 athlete in nba history. D Howard I would say is arguably as much a great athlete. He isn't as fast but has as much "hops", is much bigger and much stronger. A guy like wilt would be in that conversation to me.
Yeah, but I couldn't really see Dwight or Wilt excelling in any other sport. Lebron could be a fearsome TE, WR, or possible pass rusher in the NFL. Dwight can jump and he's strong, but mobility is a big part of athleticism imho, and Lebron is far more mobile than Dwight.
Yeah, but I couldn't really see Dwight or Wilt excelling in any other sport. Lebron could be a fearsome TE, WR, or possible pass rusher in the NFL. Dwight can jump and he's strong, but mobility is a big part of athleticism imho, and Lebron is far more mobile than Dwight.
Howard would be one of the nastiest defensive ends or even linebackers in the nfl with a bit of training. Can you imagine that 7' 275 lb 9% body fat monster hitting you.
Probably faster than KB24 was in his prime. Definitely bigger and stronger.
Kobe was never 'that' fast, even in his athletic prime. Not in comparison to Jordan, and def not in comparison to Lebron. Lebron is incredibly fast going in a straight line, from baseline to baseline( think a runaway freight train) but he doesn't possess exceptional lateral quickness or change of direction deftness. Jordan was better in those areas.
The stories of Wilt in his prime are always of his crazy athletic ability. Isnt there a story out there that he almost tried out with the KC Chiefs or something? Not to mention, supposedly, he was still a pretty good athlete into his 50s...
He probably is though many have said Bo Jackson was pretty darn special back in the day. I saw him play in the Cotton Bowl and he had an amazing change of direction speed. He was also powerful at the same time.
Kobe was never 'that' fast, even in his athletic prime. Not in comparison to Jordan, and def not in comparison to Lebron.
But that's only when comparing him to two of the best athletes the world has ever known. That's like saying: "Stephen Hawking was never 'that' smart, even in his intellectual prime. Not in comparison to Newton, and def not in comparison to Einstein." How many 6'6-6'8 players in history can you name that were faster than Kobe?
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Originally Posted by Greg1977
Lebron is incredibly fast going in a straight line, from baseline to baseline( think a runaway freight train) but he doesn't possess exceptional lateral quickness or change of direction deftness. Jordan was better in those areas.
I actually think Kobe is a better lateral mover than Jordan though Jordan was probably faster.
He's not faster than Jordan unless you are mentally focused on Jordan in his 30's which can happen. Seriously go find some you-tube of Jordan in his *youth* where he'd blow by people and then dunk on the center....and that was back when handchecking was legal which REALLY slows down a players moves when they can just shove you.
Dominique Wilkins matches up very nicely against Lebron in terms of size, speed athleticism IMO.
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