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Old 04-05-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I just lockd myself out of my Honda and was told that they would make a new key for $160!!! Whatever happened to the simple keys that you could make at a key store for under $2? These new keys are supposed to make your car less susceptible to theft, but is it really worth it? Do the hondas still get stolen with these new keys? Shouldn't the buyer be given the option of whether he wants his car equipped with these keys or not?
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Old 04-05-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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It won't matter in a few years anyway, smart keys will take over.
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Old 04-05-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I just lockd myself out of my Honda and was told that they would make a new key for $160!!! Whatever happened to the simple keys that you could make at a key store for under $2? These new keys are supposed to make your car less susceptible to theft, but is it really worth it? Do the hondas still get stolen with these new keys? Shouldn't the buyer be given the option of whether he wants his car equipped with these keys or not?
becuse most people are too lazy to unlock their doors and need a button to do it same with the trunk so they put them on the key and plus the added benifit of a coded key is good because some insurance places offer a discount if you have it. plus you can get a non-coded key cut to open your doors it just won't start your car plus most new cars come with a spare coded key anyways
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Old 04-05-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Pomona
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Coded key = a quick duplicate key won't start. Such offers an extra level of theft deterrence.

Otherwise an imprint or copy of the cuts would be enough for someone to easily make a duplicate and drive off with your car without much of any effort. How easy? On one of my cars, one of the keys was bent ... and ultimately broke. Took it to a locksmith ... he traced out the notches on paper, and in less than 3 minutes, a new key was made. The tools? A pencil and a narrow file.
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Old 04-05-2010, 04:58 PM
 
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becuse most people are too lazy to unlock their doors and need a button to do it same with the trunk so they put them on the key and plus the added benifit of a coded key is good because some insurance places offer a discount if you have it. plus you can get a non-coded key cut to open your doors it just won't start your car plus most new cars come with a spare coded key anyways
idk i'm not too lazy to unlock a door or trunk but i like the keyless entry because over the years the area around the lock doesn't get scratched up from other keys on my chain hitting against it
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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I just lockd myself out of my Honda and was told that they would make a new key for $160!!! Whatever happened to the simple keys that you could make at a key store for under $2? These new keys are supposed to make your car less susceptible to theft, but is it really worth it? Do the hondas still get stolen with these new keys? Shouldn't the buyer be given the option of whether he wants his car equipped with these keys or not?
No doubt this quote is from the Stealer. You can do better than that with any good locksmith.

IIRC you can have a key cut to the car's VIN (key code) that does not have the chip, it will work the door lock but not the ignition.

If the above quote is from the Stealer, they don't need anymore business from you, do they?
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Dealers make alot of money off of these keys. Glad none of mine are like that.
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:44 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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No doubt this quote is from the Stealer. You can do better than that with any good locksmith.

IIRC you can have a key cut to the car's VIN (key code) that does not have the chip, it will work the door lock but not the ignition.

If the above quote is from the Stealer, they don't need anymore business from you, do they?
I am far from being a STEALER. I just don't see why the dealers force us to buy these things. I've been driving since I was 16 (I'm 46 now) and have never had a car stolen from me in all of the years that I was driving with the keys made the old way. It just seems like another excuse to jack the prices up.
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:58 AM
 
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Another reason why I prefer older cars
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Old 04-06-2010, 02:20 AM
 
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I am far from being a STEALER. I just don't see why the dealers force us to buy these things. I've been driving since I was 16 (I'm 46 now) and have never had a car stolen from me in all of the years that I was driving with the keys made the old way. It just seems like another excuse to jack the prices up.
It's supply and demand in most cases. Most motorists WANT these keys, and providing both is cost ineffective.

Now encoded keys do work as a deterrent towards simple car theft (does little to stop a professional.), what drives prices up to the levels you'll see for a key today is all the added creature comforts we want. In my car (a 98 Corolla) the keys are encoded, but I still have to use them to manually open the doors etc.

Of course this makes them cheaper than newer keys, though still a fair bit more expensive than a $2 piece of metal. That said, Toyota locks are notorious for failing, especially door locks. So far I've changed one, one doesn't work anymore and one if now beginning to fail. You got to wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to have an electronic opener on the key instead of replacing all these locks...
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