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Old 01-13-2013, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Personally I can't stand aftermarket HID's, they blind the crap out of other drivers and are, IMHO, a real safety issue, especially on trucks. Nothing screams ricer louder. In truth I wish the cops would start writing tickets for drivers caught with non DOT approved lighting modifications.

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Old 01-13-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Whittier
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Personally I can't stand aftermarket HID's, they blind the crap out of other drivers and are, IMHO, a real safety issue, especially on trucks. Nothing screams ricer louder. In truth I wish the cops would start writing tickets for drivers caught with non DOT approved lighting modifications.

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If caught (at least in California) cops do write tickets for illegal or overly "colored" headlights.

Even though it is technically illegal you can still retrofit the correct HID system if it contains both the right bulb and projector. If aimed correctly (with the correct cutoff) systems like these are just like OEM. And in some cases can safely outperform other OEM setups.

Just dropping in a "plug and play" HID kit into a halogen projector or worse a reflector-type system not only blinds other drivers but also leaves the driver with a false sense of better visibility.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:47 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Nothing screams ricer faster than xenon lighting? It's the most mainstream lighting alternative and is now offered on everything from the Toyota Prius to Ferrari's and F150's. My last few cars have come with factory Xenon's but a proper aftermarket retrofit is better than many OEM xenon systems and destroy halogens.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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Nothing screams "Ricer" faster than obvious 'plug-n-play' drop in bulb replacements. It's so obvious that even my mother can pick it out in a heartbeat and curse about their ignorance. They are a complete hazard to other vehicles on the road at night thanks to the massive glare and the stupid thing is that while drastically more Volume of light is produced, it's not lighting up anywhere near as far down the road so you can easily out-drive your light.

I don't keep up with the market because I haven't found anything better than OEM, ever, but last I checked there were Zero retrofit kits with housings short of a projector light sold as a driving or fog light. I'd love to have a full bi-xenon self leveling kit for my Toyota truck, but they just don't exist.

So, I think it's a menace in the forms that are available right now (to convert halogen to xenon), but if a Proper (which means $$$$$) aftermarket setup were available and it was designed correctly, I don't see why it couldn't be excellent.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Nothing screams "Ricer" faster than obvious 'plug-n-play' drop in bulb replacements. It's so obvious that even my mother can pick it out in a heartbeat and curse about their ignorance. They are a complete hazard to other vehicles on the road at night thanks to the massive glare and the stupid thing is that while drastically more Volume of light is produced, it's not lighting up anywhere near as far down the road so you can easily out-drive your light.

I don't keep up with the market because I haven't found anything better than OEM, ever, but last I checked there were Zero retrofit kits with housings short of a projector light sold as a driving or fog light. I'd love to have a full bi-xenon self leveling kit for my Toyota truck, but they just don't exist.

So, I think it's a menace in the forms that are available right now (to convert halogen to xenon), but if a Proper (which means $$$$$) aftermarket setup were available and it was designed correctly, I don't see why it couldn't be excellent.
It does exist for your truck. However, you might not want to pay for it. First you have to buy some projectors from a used car parts place like ebay. The good projectors will cost you. Most of these projectors come out of high end cars like Lexus, Acura, etc... Then, you have to take apart your headlight housing and retro fit the projector into your housing. It takes skill and being able to design something. It's not easy. It's not just going to fit. You will have to design and machine brackets and level the projectors and all that good stuff. Then you need the ballast and bulbs and you need to hook it all up. For a good retro kit that's on par with OEM, you will spend aleast $1000. Are you willing to do that? If you are then I promise you that you will have HID lights that out class OEM ones. Websites like hidplanet.com specializes on doing this stuff. They can help you collect all the parts and can even do it for you but be prepared to spend about $1200.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Like this guy. He does 2013 Fords F150s. His complete conversion kit is $2000 and it is Lexus quality. These are not aftermarket headlights. He takes you stock headlighs and works a stock projector in. They are awesome.

bilinvic Retrofits - * Custom Retrofitted F150 Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights*
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Nothing screams ricer faster than xenon lighting? It's the most mainstream lighting alternative and is now offered on everything from the Toyota Prius to Ferrari's and F150's. My last few cars have come with factory Xenon's but a proper aftermarket retrofit is better than many OEM xenon systems and destroy halogens.
Way to go on the misquote. Title of the thread was "aftermarket". Not original manufacturer. Try to keep up.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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Like this guy. He does 2013 Fords F150s. His complete conversion kit is $2000 and it is Lexus quality. These are not aftermarket headlights. He takes you stock headlighs and works a stock projector in. They are awesome.

bilinvic Retrofits - * Custom Retrofitted F150 Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights*
Why would any sane person spend $2000 on lights?! Holy hell that's messed up.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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i LOVED mine (when I had them). My car came with projectors with a pretty well defined cutoff. The road visibility and aesthetic was unbeatable.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Way to go on the misquote. Title of the thread was "aftermarket". Not original manufacturer. Try to keep up.
Keep up buddy, you just quoted me stating that a good aftermarket setup is often better than oem.
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