01-12-2010, 09:33 PM
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We need to relocate to Atlanta area to care for an ailing parent and we have 7 & 11 year old kids. We're coming from NYC and would like the change of pace, but would hope to find a community that isn't ultra-conservative. We're eye'ing Chattahoochee HS zone. Can anyone rec'd neighborhoods/developments w/ houses under 500k where our kids could make friends & we wouldn't be seen as political outsiders if we still like Obama?
Many thanks for any tips.
01-13-2010, 03:05 AM
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I'm a libertarian socialist. Therefore, wherever I happen to be standing at the moment (Jasper Georgia right now) is a liberal area.
At least it will be until I remember the Democrats are in charge now and I start calling myself a paleoconservative again.
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01-13-2010, 05:57 AM
Location: East Cobb
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I still like Obama and I live in East Cobb (a very conservative area). I don't think you'll find anything resembling a "liberal area" in Johns Creek/Alpharetta. You just have to look at the voting patterns. That area is Republican by a solid majority. People will be polite and you may be able to have a happy life there, but as liberals you'll notice you're in the minority.
Do you remember during the 2008 election campaigning, how the Democrats were very concerned about negative press about Michelle Obama, suggesting she was strident, radical, etc? Around the height of that, I was at coffee hour after church one Sunday, and someone complimented the cookies. The person who baked them said they were actually a recipe of Laura Bush, or said to be, and she wondered if the current presidential candidates wives made cookies. Somebody said "Oh, I'm sure Cindy McCain doesn't bake. She is the Chairman of the Board of her family business and very involved with business affairs and charity work." Everyone nodded and I said "Michelle Obama probably doesn't have much time for baking, either." Another woman said "What does she do?" There was silence and I said "You mean, job-wise?" The questioner and the rest of the groups of folk nodded, and someone said "I know nothing about the woman. Do you?" So I contributed "Uh, well she's a Harvard-trained lawyer, like her husband, and she worked in private practice for a while, and then went into public interest work. I believe her current job is Vice President of University of Chicago Hospitals, but she's taking a leave of absence from that, during the campaign at the moment."
Somebody responded "Goodness, how interesting. So she's quite an accomplished woman too. I had no idea. Well I guess you're right, she probably doesn't spend a lot of time in the kitchen either."
Well, that turned into a bit of a long story, but the point I'm trying to make is that over in East Cobb (maybe a bit more conservative than Johns Creek/Alpharetta, but not hugely more), at the height of publicity about the Obamas, people just knew nothing about them, probably because the idea of considering voting for the Democratic candidate would be so foreign to these voters, it really didn't matter what kind of person he or she might be.
01-13-2010, 06:12 AM
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We need to relocate to Atlanta area to care for an ailing parent and we have 7 & 11 year old kids. We're coming from NYC and would like the change of pace, but would hope to find a community that isn't ultra-conservative. We're eye'ing Chattahoochee HS zone. Can anyone rec'd neighborhoods/developments w/ houses under 500k where our kids could make friends & we wouldn't be seen as political outsiders if we still like Obama?
Many thanks for any tips.
If you are looking for a more liberal area, with good schools and housing under 500K...there are plenty of other options to choose from in the Atlanta metro area.
Go to this link, follow the directions, and then make another post on this thread with the requested information:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/atlan...ead-first.html
01-13-2010, 06:40 AM
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Cambridge is assigned to Chattahoochee. Great neighorhood off Sargent Road. Lexington off Sargent is nice also. Dunmoor and Tuxford are options but with the opening of Johns Creek HS there was a shift so I'm not really sure where all the neighobrhoods ended up.
Does it have to be Chattahoochee? Northview and Johns Creek High Schools are in the same area and are just as good. There isn't really a difference. It will make your house hunting trip easier plus since your children are younger there could be another shift which might leave your neighobrhood at another school by the time they get there. Something to think about.
01-13-2010, 07:18 AM
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You just need to move next door to me.
I live in Northview School District. Quite a few of our friends here are liberals, but I think that's because we seek them out. If you want to be in a sea of liberals, Johns Creek isn't the place for you.
But I'm pretty far to the left, and I have had absolutely no problems fitting in here. And I've found plenty of people just like myself.
01-13-2010, 07:35 AM
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Cambridge is assigned to Chattahoochee. Great neighorhood off Sargent Road. Lexington off Sargent is nice also. Dunmoor and Tuxford are options but with the opening of Johns Creek HS there was a shift so I'm not really sure where all the neighobrhoods ended up.
Does it have to be Chattahoochee? Northview and Johns Creek High Schools are in the same area and are just as good. There isn't really a difference. It will make your house hunting trip easier plus since your children are younger there could be another shift which might leave your neighobrhood at another school by the time they get there. Something to think about.
Yep...especially since I think they are starting to realize that they may have drawn the Chattahoochee zone too small after redistricting for Johns Creek High School. The population of Chattahoochee is turning out to be smaller than the other schools--and the square mile area of its zone is already the smallest.
01-13-2010, 07:40 AM
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I would submit that many of these people would have the same reaction if they were a republican. And those that are interested and take the time to know the candidates don't usually vote based on what kind of person they are. I think those that don't pay as much attention day to day however would be more likely to be swayed by the individual person.
When you feel strongly one way or the other its hard to see the other side but there are times when we find someone really likeable but deep down completely disagree with some of their policy beliefs.
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at the height of publicity about the Obamas, people just knew nothing about them, probably because the idea of considering voting for the Democratic candidate would be so foreign to these voters, it really didn't matter what kind of person he or she might be.
01-13-2010, 09:37 AM
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This is off topic, so I hope we don't get into a big sub-thread about it, but I want to respond a little.
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noah
I would submit that many of these people would have the same reaction if they were a republican.
I guess my story didn't make it clear enough that from the nods and uh-huhs,
everyone in the group of around 10 people I was describing, was fully aware of the basic facts about Cindy McCain, while
not one knew the equivalent info about Michelle Obama. You can submit that this was a complete non-typical sample of East Cobbers, if you like.
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And those that are interested and take the time to know the candidates don't usually vote based on what kind of person they are. I think those that don't pay as much attention day to day however would be more likely to be swayed by the individual person.
When you feel strongly one way or the other its hard to see the other side but there are times when we find someone really likeable but deep down completely disagree with some of their policy beliefs.
Certainly, I have no problem with the rest of your post.
The point of my post was to provide a catchy anecdotal example of how the majority of folks in my part of East Cobb aren't so much actively hostile to liberals as just unaware because they move in a pretty monolithically conservative culture where liberal ideas and values (and, secondarily, personalities) just don't ever come up, because they've been dismissed a priori. When my daughter was a middle schooler and topics like family political views started to be discussed around the lunch table in the cafeteria, she found that almost all of her fellows thought that her family's Democratic leanings were outlandish. It was as if we were members of the Flat Earth Society, or something. Other kids found it just weird that we could have views that "everyone" knows are simply
wrong .
I suspect that a similar situation may prevail in at least parts of NYC, except the boot would be on the other foot. So NYC liberals looking for a "liberal area" in the Atlanta suburbs could easily find themselves feeling fishes out of water, depending on the location they chose.
01-13-2010, 10:13 AM
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Any liberal areas in Johns Creek/Alpharetta?
No. (try Dekalb county, maybe Clayton, Henry, or the City of Atlanta)
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People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)