06-07-2008, 01:08 AM
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Once again, all I asked for were opinions- seeing as though I am an Australian and know little about your country and culture. And I got your opinion about 3 posts ago.
06-07-2008, 06:41 AM
Location: metro Atlanta
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Hi, again, Miss. Aussie. Your best bet is a visit to Atlanta area. If you get to stay here for a few weeks, and get around a lot, you will get a better understanding.
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Does anyone know much about Riverdale Georgia?
This is in Clayton County. Visiting is fine. Some shopping, restaurants and so on. Better trendy shopping is located in Buckhead and further north.
I would not recommend living in Clayton if you plan to have children as the public schools are in very bad shape. There are separate Clayton County threads here if you want to read more about it.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/atlan...-we-can-t.html
Clayton County has a large minority population (primarily black) and there are plenty of mixed couples in the area with children, but if you want to live in an area with better public schools, pick another county around Clayton, maybe Fayette, or somewhere in West Georgia near Carollton. So many areas to choose from. Maybe your friends can give you more suggestions.
On a personal note: just think of it this way, you need a thick skin to deal with life. Heck, even posting on forums online. People need to toughen up. Because they think they are anonymous, they post things here they would NEVER say to someone's face. I post here as if I were talking to anyone in person, black, white, etc.
You have the added issue of being in an interracial relationship. I think you will do fine in Atlanta as you will see plenty of interracial relationships. Atlanta is a very large anonymous place to live. So many people here from everywhere and from all ethnic backgrounds. Up until the 70s, it was largely blacks or whites that lived here: now we have significant populations of Hispanics, Asians and plenty of others. Atlanta definitely got more international during the 90s when the summer Olympic Games were hosted here.
Give us an update after you decide what to do, I hope to hear good news!
06-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Once again, all I asked for were opinions- seeing as though I am an Australian and know little about your country and culture. And I got your opinion about 3 posts ago.
Regardless of where you end up, a lot is going to depend on the specific group of people you end up living next to and hanging out with.
Even a medium-sized city like Atlanta has a relatively large and diverse metro area, and some areas can be quite different from others both in demographics and in overall attitudes.
I personally don't think you'll run into any issues at all, and you'll eventually realize that your view of America was probably not very accurate before you got here. But that isn't surprising -- some of us can't relate to the media here, anyway, with its very strong New York/LA bias. Neither of the places I've lived (Twin Cities and Atlanta) are that much like either coast, and for the most part the residents are just fine with the differences.
There isn't a really singular generic "American culture", anyway, except in a fairly superficial way -- people on the east coast of the US are generally not like people on the west coast, and neither one is much like the midwest, the southeast, or the southwest US. You find many of the same stores all over, but people here eat weird things like sweet tea and grits, and there's no lefsa or lutefisk to be found anywhere.
06-07-2008, 09:28 PM
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On another note, I spoke to my future mother in law last night who assured me I'll be fine and all I need to prepare for is some good georgia home cooking! Can't say I've ever tried grits, collared greens and cornbread so I'm looking forward to that!
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06-09-2008, 07:41 AM
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Questions about a big move.
Seems to me you are getting pretty good input on this thread. My comments would be:
Atlanta is different than the rest of Georgia. This may bother you if you are sensitive as the media reflects the overall demographic. You can manage this by finding your comfort zones but you will run into other viewpoints.
I think you are correct in wondering about the issues listed (church, female reactions, etc). Nothing extraordinary, just keep talking and working out concerns.
This is a huge life changing decision. Marriage, family, culture, distance - I say don't let fear stand in the way of love and adventure. Your open and thoughtful approach will serve you well.
Good luck!
06-09-2008, 02:19 PM
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Hi everyone!
New here - As the title says I am an white australian girl currently living with a black amercian in Sydney Australia. He is originally from Carollton Georgia and we have decided to move to the USA and most likely to Atlanta so we will can be close to his family but not too close!
I am a little worried about racism in this area and Carollton as well because we stand out very much as a couple as I am 5'9 and blonde and he is 6'5 and big and black! It has never been an issue here in Sydney but I dont know what to expect when I get there. Can anyone tell me what to expect? Are people going to treat me differently? Someone told me that black girls will want to hunt me down??
I am also interested in going to church there and wanted to know whether there are other white people that go or whether I'll stick out like a sore thumb!
Sorry if this sounds really stupid I have no idea except from opinions my Sydney friends have told me!
If Atlanta is not a good area for us to move,
which city would you suggest for a young couple not much into clubbing or partying, looking to rent with lots of job opportunities?
Please contribute your thoughts if you have anything to say
Not to knock on Atlanta, but there are much better cities (and states) that would be better bets of being more accepting and welcoming of a black/white interracial couple. The best ones that I can think of are Seattle, Minneapolis, Denver, Honolulu, and San Francisco. All of which aren't completely known for their party scene (but have a lot of other social activities to compensate), and the job opportunities in those areas are fairly solid despite this economic downturn. The cost of living may be a bit pricey in these cities, but if you have a good resume (including a post-graduate education) to get a high paying job and once you live in any of these cities, you'll see that it's worth the cost.
And speaking of Australia, I always wanted to visit (and possibly one day, live) there. To the OP, you said that you in an interracial relationship w/ a black dude wasn't a problem in Sydney. But if you can, could you go into detail of how blacks are treated in Australia and in major cities in particular?
06-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Location: East Cobb
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Umm, Fairfaxian, the OP is 22, her partner works at a fitness center, and their idea was to move close to his family, who are in Georgia.
06-09-2008, 10:01 PM
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Fairfaxian, as I said black people in Sydney are far out numbered by white people even though there are many different ethnicities here. White people could probably be out numbered by asian and indian people here theres so many!
But as far as I know and from what I've experienced, people from different cultures are not treated any differently here. The only thing I have to say about black men in Sydney is that in the club and party scene they can get quite alot of attention from the ladies! My partner originally came to Australia for basketball and he knows alot of the black men who are in the basketball scene are also into the club scene purely because of the ladies and the attention they receive. So in a way, black men are treated better than white men! lol
Australia is so beautiful you will love it here if you come! Make sure you visit during summer or spring though because it will limit your sightseeing and activities during the winter.
09-06-2008, 09:03 AM
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Uhhhh did you really have to dig up a 3 month old thread just to post a useless generic comment that the OP who is long gone will never see?
09-11-2008, 08:42 PM
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No one is going to bother you - especially if you have a big black boyfriend on your arm - tee hee hee. Many many interracial couples here. If his family is in Carrollton and you want a bit of distance but aren't interested in partying/city scene every night don't pay the price for intown living - move to Douglasville. It is between Carrollton and Atlanta. You can visit the family one weekend and Atlanta on the next. There are mixed churches in Douglasville - I see the mixed crowds in the parking lots as I pass by. I wouldn't worry if I were you.
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People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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