"SoNo" held back by shelter? (Atlanta: sales, loans)

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by imb951

I see that developing every day. I agree that without the shelter closing, the business will fail quickly. It looks like a cool place though. The block is unfortunately too sketchy still. Just ask the people at O'Terrills Irish Pub.

Is O'Terrills still kicking? I drove by last month around 2:00pm, and it looked closed.

[imb951]

Updates on the court case: Peachtree-Pine homeless shelter has a home | Atlanta News & Opinion Blog | Fresh Loaf | Creative Loafing Atlanta

Great comment:

"The Task Force and the Pine Street Shelter is killing our neighborhood.

Where is the concern for the thousands of Atlanta Homeowners, Business owners and Tourists who have to live and work around the Peachtree Pine Shelter?

You know the people who pay the taxes that support the existence of the city. The same people who are Assaulted, Burglarized, Verbally Abused and Denied free access and use of their property on a daily basis by the “Peachtree Pine Residents”.

The Task Force gives access to and transports people into our community who commit crimes against us. They destroy the lives of thousands of people in our neighborhood every year.

Judge Craig Schwall ( a bum huger who does not live in or anywhere around us and who never has to deal with the crap the Task Force throws on us)should look at the destruction the Task Force and their Peachtree Pine Shelter had brought upon us and “ Do The Just Thing”…..Allow the Property owner to exercise his private property rights and help save our community"

[imb951]

More from Creative Loafing: City withdraws support for homeless shelter | News Feature | Creative Loafing Atlanta

Rufus Terrell, owner of O'Terrell's Pub located a block from the shelter, claims to have interrupted a mugging by a perpetrator who came from the shelter. "You can't even go down Courtland Street behind the Task Force unless you're armed," he says. "I think it has absolutely destroyed the business in our neighborhood."

[imb951]

Kwanza Hall's comment:

"the value of the shelter property, which sits on prime downtown real estate, ought to be incentive to relinquish it. With the amount of money that they could get for that building, they could invest in a facility that could really help people who need help." SO VERY TRUE however, Anita Beaty is seems to be trying to make a point, as if pushing a sharp stick into the eyes of the city and the residents who live nearby - I question her actual motives - she seems to be a very mean sprited person. The facility should be razed, the land sold, and the money used to build a new facility near the Fulton County Jail.

[ToucheGA]

Originally Posted by MMANN

Where are the other ones?

There are not many other shelters, and the few that are not full every night can't compensate for the hundreds of homeless individuals who will be displaced if the Atlanta Union Mission closes (funny how most of the people who have posted on this thread don't even seem to know the name of the organization that they are complaining about.) Closing the facility will force the current residents to inhabit the streets of downtown Atlanta, and not just on the corner of Peachtree and Pine.

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by ToucheGA

There are not many other shelters, and the few that are not full every night can't compensate for the hundreds of homeless individuals who will be displaced if the Atlanta Union Mission closes (funny how most of the people who have posted on this thread don't even seem to know the name of the organization that they are complaining about.) Closing the facility will force the current residents to inhabit the streets of downtown Atlanta, and not just on the corner of Peachtree and Pine.

I think you might be a little confused, ToucheGA.

The Atlanta Union Mission is a very well run shelter behind the Aquarium.

Peachtree & Pine is a completely different story.

[jsimms3]

I have seen some "nicer" looking old men who live at Peachtree Pine and probably do not cause problems aside from sapping money and resources from others, but they are the minority. Most of what I have seen are young hustlers that go by the names of "Red", "Brooklyn", "New York", "LA", etc and take names of places or hoods they're from so their identity remains unclear while they peddle drugs. I feel sorry for all the residents and business owners who suffer because people do not want to park their car in the area, open up shop, visit, or live.

While union missions are a necessary part of inner cities, when a neighborhood that has them is on the up and up, it is time to move the missions elsewhere. I like what Cafe 458 and Samaritan House do for homeless men in Atlanta. They have strict standards for men that can come in for help (drug/alcohol free and putting forth valient effort to get a job), and they are only open from 6 a.m. to 4 p.m. They don't offer places to sleep, but being fully volunteer run, they offer food, washers/dryers, computers, and guidance. Samaritan Atlanta also runs Cafe 458 on Edgewood near the King Memorial, which is a little restaurant for homeless men.

Peachtree Pines seems like a joke of a center, a halfway house for hustlers, peddlers, gangbusters, and other criminals to spend some free time making tax free money before they end up right back in jail. How does the APD drive by every night and not put a stop to the loitering on those 2 city blocks? I walked through there a couple times, and maybe partially because I was a young white guy obviously in college, every person there tried to sell me coke. It was an open air market I tell you. One guy offered his "assistance" to "protect" me from all of that as I walked by, but it was a little freaky and he was just trying to shift some product onto me too, obviously. This was during the early evening, btw, not at 2 a.m.

Peachtree Pines NEEDS to legally go through the foreclosure process SOON like it was going to, because too many people have too much at stake if it does not, and too many good citizens with good ideas have great visions for the place. Atlanta is in the hole so bad, I don't know why its coffers and its tax paying and law abiding citizens get shoved aside for gang bangers who take from the taxpayers/the city and cause problems and place more pressure on the coffers. That building and the whole area can produce quite a bit of income for the city, and more income actually equates to the city having even more ability to "help" inner city thugs lead unproductive lives on social services (which sometimes seems to be a focus of the city, so it's ironic they don't have the business sense to forecast that).

[ToucheGA]

Originally Posted by johnatl

I think you might be a little confused, ToucheGA.

The Atlanta Union Mission is a very well run shelter behind the Aquarium.

Peachtree & Pine is a completely different story.

Ah, I thought the post was in reference to the ATL Union Mission. My mistake.

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by ToucheGA

Ah, I thought the post was in reference to the ATL Union Mission. My mistake.

No problem at all.

From what I've been told by friends that live Downtown, there is basically all-around respect for the job they do there.

[noah]

Agree.

Living in the general area I see it all the time. The problem is there are no anti panhandling laws so the police can't do much.

The building has already gone through foreclosure, but obviously the new owners have not done anything to evict yet as they wait for the city to find another place for the shelter.

Originally Posted by jsimms3

Peachtree Pines seems like a joke of a center, a halfway house for hustlers, peddlers, gangbusters, and other criminals to spend some free time making tax free money before they end up right back in jail. How does the APD drive by every night and not put a stop to the loitering on those 2 city blocks? I walked through there a couple times, and maybe partially because I was a young white guy obviously in college, every person there tried to sell me coke. It was an open air market I tell you. One guy offered his "assistance" to "protect" me from all of that as I walked by, but it was a little freaky and he was just trying to shift some product onto me too, obviously. This was during the early evening, btw, not at 2 a.m.

Peachtree Pines NEEDS to legally go through the foreclosure process SOON like it was going to, because too many people have too much at stake if it does not, and too many good citizens with good ideas have great visions for the place. Atlanta is in the hole so bad, I don't know why its coffers and its tax paying and law abiding citizens get shoved aside for gang bangers who take from the taxpayers/the city and cause problems and place more pressure on the coffers. That building and the whole area can produce quite a bit of income for the city, and more income actually equates to the city having even more ability to "help" inner city thugs lead unproductive lives on social services (which sometimes seems to be a focus of the city, so it's ironic they don't have the business sense to forecast that).