06-12-2014, 10:08 AM
Location: The big blue yonder...
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I hope this isn't news to you, but Atlanta has been awarded an expansion MLS team that will start play in 2017.
If you think this is a bad idea, you don't know Atlanta's soccer fan community. Atlanta has a HUGE soccer community, however there are things that the city can do to ruin the fan experience... (Personally, I don't think the location of the new stadium will be best for those fans, but that's another thread).
Arthur Blank is the owner of the new team and he has stated that he will allow the fans to VOTE ON THE TEAM NAME...
With that being said, there have been a LOT of names thrown around after the news. Many of which, by fans of the city's sports, but not fans of soccer (so they have a hard time breaking free of the tradition naming conventions).
Some of the names thrown around have just been stupid. MOST have been attempts at being funny... BUT, few have been seriously good.
But one thing that the vast majority seem to have in common is that they want the team name to be Atlanta specific. As in, either fit in with Atlanta's bird theme, or be a representation of the city culture/southern culture, etc...
I read an article that declared the winner of the fan vote to be "
Atlanta Phoenix "
I'm writing this thread to argue that name & suggest a better name that says "Atlanta" far more, far better, if far more unique, means MORE to Atlanta and just out right sounds better, hoping that you guys will agree and spread the word so the name gets a buzz...
While I understand what it means, I'm not slow or new to Atlanta, it still just sounds dumb to me. And that's a problem. I see several problems with the name "Atlanta Phoenix" and I'll explain, hoping that the people of C-D Atlanta agree...
1.
"Atlanta Phoenix" lacks identity and uniqueness ... Instead, what it breeds is a never-ending debate with outsiders over why Atlanta chose the name of another large city (Phoenix).
2. What happens in the future when Phoenix is awarded an MLS team? There will be Phoenix @ Phoenix matches... This
breeds another dumb and unnecessary debate .
3. The name just
doesn't roll off the tongue . It doesn't flow. There's a natural pause between the end of Atlanta & the beginning of Phoenix, which makes it sound unnatural & clunky.
4.
Don't get so stuck in conventional naming conventions ... The team name doesn't HAVE TO say "Atlanta," but if it does, please make it sound unique... Some of the most famous soccer teams do not carry the name of the city they represent (For example: Arsenal, Chelsea, Chivas, etc...) Other teams only carry the city name & no mascot (For example: AC Milan, FC Barcelona, Toronto FC, etc...). It is okay to not have to say [City - Mascot]...
LET's GO FOR MORE UNIQUENESS!!!
Atlanta Phoenix is NOT the name we want.... Let's not go down that path...
I understand, at first sight, it's like "Awwwe cool!!! Fits in with the bird theme, and represents Atlanta because of the symbol of Atlanta..." But there's an even better name:
"RESURGENS FC"
RESURGENS FC will...
1.
Fit in with Atlanta's bird theme by allowing for a logo & mascot of a phoenix
2.
Is unique and specific to Atlanta ONLY
3.
SOUNDS professional soccer
4.
Speaks to Atlanta's history
5.
Simple & easy to say
6. Breeds the opportunity for outsiders to, instead of debate the name, ask "what does that mean?" and find out a little more about Atlanta.
7. The name becomes a perfect setup to shorten the name into a chant
"SURGE!!!" or just a nickname
"Surge..."
(Exp: "Oh, I'm a Surge fan..." "GO SURGE!!!")
(But, "I'm a Phoenix fan," tells outsiders you are a fan of an Arizona team, until you have to explain it..." When you HAVE TO explain something, it's not a good thing.)
Even if it must be "Atlanta Resurgens FC" it's better than "Atlanta Phoenix."
IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE TERM
"RESURGENS," Here is how it applies to Atlanta...
Atlanta's original symbol was a bird flying over fields of farm land... So, Atlanta's symbol has always been a bird.
But after General Sherman burned the city to the ground, the city "RESURGED" and was reborn from the ashes like a phoenix (hence the phoenix on the seal).
The city adopted the term "RESURGENS" to represent the city being like a phoenix, reborn from flames. What makes it so unique, is that Atlanta is the only place that term applies, because of it's the latin form of the English word "Resurgence."
PERFECTLY UNIQUE TO ATLANTA
But "Atlanta Phoenix" will start a really stupid debate... Let's NOT let this happen to what will be our team!!! GET THE WORD OUT!!!
06-12-2014, 10:16 AM
Location: City of Trees
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I'm cool with Atlanta Resurgens FC. The idea I've heard elsewhere of using SC "because it's called soccer here, duh" is a stupid idea. FC all the way.
06-12-2014, 10:31 AM
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Something with "RESURGENS" is my favorite.
06-12-2014, 10:41 AM
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Why the need for FC or SC? I don't get it. I hate it when American clubs try to take 100 years of European soccer history and claim it as their own. There is no Atlanta Braves BC or Atlanta Falcons AFC or Atlanta Hawks BC, so why does the MLS club need the extra initials? It's like a doctor going out of his way to sign everything with "M.D." at the end of it.
06-12-2014, 10:52 AM
Location: The big blue yonder...
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I think the team shouldn't even use the name "Atlanta" in the team name. We know where they play. Don't need to say "Atlanta Resurgens..." I like it as just "Resurgens FC"
06-12-2014, 01:15 PM
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Is "Resurgens" even a word? Even the Japanese borrow American names so Atlanta could go with "Atlanta United" or "Atlanta-close-to-Chattahoochee".
06-12-2014, 01:42 PM
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As a former NASL player, I think "Resurgens" is the most awful I've heard so far.
06-12-2014, 02:39 PM
Location: Odessa, FL
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Not that I really care, but ....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Psykomonkee
IAtlanta Phoenix "When you HAVE TO explain something, it's not a good thing. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE TERM "RESURGENS," Here is how it applies to Atlanta...
So, you're explaining to us the significance of the name.
But.... "When you HAVE TO explain something, it's not a good thing"
06-12-2014, 02:41 PM
Location: Atlanta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
MathmanMathman
Is "Resurgens" even a word? Even the Japanese borrow American names so Atlanta could go with "Atlanta United" or "Atlanta-close-to-Chattahoochee".
Motto:
Resurgens (Latin for
rising again )
Pretty awesome name if you ask me.
I will also echo the comment about the FC thing seeming like a forced tradition. But whatever, it does look and roll off the tongue better than Atlanta Resurgens.
One thing is for sure, I will never ever ever do that damn OLE song. They tried to force that on us @ Thrashers games and that song has forever fallen under the
hated category.
06-12-2014, 02:43 PM
Location: Atlanta
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billl
Not that I really care, but ....
The name in itself sounds pretty aggressive. I think most people will take it for an cool sounding name, then learn later the relevance. I love stuff like that!
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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