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Originally Posted by hooligan
How do you make a martini with no gin???
LOL when I lived in NYC there was an old bartender that would tell patrons to hit the bricks if they wanted a vodka martini. There was no such thing; a martini was made with gin and nothing else.
The 'study' was flawed. Some liquors are dark due to the addition of caramel or other coloring.
A properly constructed study would have controlled for the selection of the quality of the distillation as a primary factor. The number of times a liquor is distilled, and the care used in the distillation process, has a greater bearing on the propensity and severity of hangovers.
Distillation is a scientific process that requires care and precise temperature controls to achieve a quality product. When a mash is fermented, a number of different types of alcohols are produced. Each type of alcohol vaporizes and condenses at different temperatures from the others. There are 'good' alcohols and 'bad' alcohols. The 'bad' alcohols contribute more toward hangovers than the others.
By precisely controlling the temperatures in the distillation column the 'bad' alcohols can be separated and removed, this drastically affects the quality of the finished product. A poorly controlled distillation process can result in the accumulation and concentration of 'bad' alcohols that can result in more severe hangovers, or in extreme cases can cause blindness and death. This is one of the primary reasons why the US gov't requires that potable alcohol distilleries be licensed and home distillation is illegal- improper and/or careless distilling can cause severe harm and death.
'Moonshine' has, at times, been accorded as having a reputation of causing severe hangovers, blindness, and even death. The reputation is based in fact due to (in years past) primitive equipment and controls, and improper separation of 'heads' and 'tails' which resulted in the concentration of alcohols with toxic/lethal properties.
Traditionally produced 'Applejack' has been accorded the same reputation for hangovers because of the way it is produced. Applejack is made by freezing 'hard' (fermented) apple cider at colder and colder temperatures, a process known as 'jacking'. Alcohols freeze at lower temperatures than water (think 'antifreeze'). The water in the cider is frozen, and the alcohols are drawn off which concentrates them. Unfortunately, this method does not discriminate between the 'good' alcohols and the 'bad' alcohols, it concentrates them both. The result is a product that gives nasty hangovers if you over-imbibe. (Modern 'Applejack' is legally produced by distillation instead of 'jacking'.)
Poorly distilled clear liquor will give just as bad a hangover as poorly distilled 'colored/dark' liquor.
Sometimes I want a martini made with gin, which is clear.
Other times I want a Manhattan, with rye whisky and red vermouth - decidedly not clear.
Which I prefer on a given day has nothing to do with the fact that one is lighter than the other.
It's like asking whether I enjoy driving a red car or a blue car more. The fact that I might like driving the red Mustang more than the blue Civic has nothing to do with the color.
Both. I love Vodka, Gin, Tequila, Dark Rum, and Bourbon. Totally depends on my mood.
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