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Old 09-12-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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Are you referring to the area around Bethel (southwestern region), which has towns with unexplained water gaps sitting right in the middle of the streets?



It's entirely possible to be in a remote area and still have a road. Some rural states, like Montana or Wyoming, or South Dakota, have mostly small towns that are hours away from each other.
I'm farther south than Bethel. I am in south west Alaska though. Here's the deal though. Even farther north the tundra is the same. The interior region of Alaska is possibly the most remote area. Comparable to Siberia region of Russia. How's the infrastructure in Siberia region?

When I lived in an interior/western Alaska village our environment was delta type. We had tundra and swamps. We looked into building a trail between our three schools on the Yukon river. We didn't have the funds to build or maintain a trail that was useable in non winter months. Read up on the Iditarod race. More than likely the proposed road would run along the route.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:05 PM
 
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It's entirely possible to be in a remote area and still have a road. Some rural states, like Montana or Wyoming, or South Dakota, have mostly small towns that are hours away from each other. Like a 3+ hour drive from each other.
Wow. 3+ hours? That's rough.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:07 PM
 
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Are you referring to the area around Bethel (southwestern region), which has towns with unexplained water gaps sitting right in the middle of the streets?



It's entirely possible to be in a remote area and still have a road. Some rural states, like Montana or Wyoming, or South Dakota, have mostly small towns that are hours away from each other. Like a 3+ hour drive from each other.
I just drive from Atlanta to Seattle to place our car on a barge. We went through Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Idaho, Oregon and Washington. There were plenty of remote areas on that drive. 100 miles between towns sometimes. Big difference though in climate. Solid ground is kind of a needed component of building durable roads. Much of Alaska doesn't offer that solid ground.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:10 PM
 
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57 below let me ask you:

Why do you think there are no big cities here? Not many roads?
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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Wow. 3+ hours? That's rough.
I was just trying to tell the other poster that a town does not have to have a lack of road access to be remote. Nor do I know any towns outside of Alaska that exist without road access except maybe a few isolated islands.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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57 below let me ask you:

Why do you think there are no big cities here? Not many roads?
Probably won't get an answer, you are asking him to think.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:19 PM
 
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I was just trying to tell the other poster that a town does not have to have a lack of road access to be remote. Nor do I know any towns outside of Alaska that exist without road access except maybe a few isolated islands.
That other poster lives in the interior. Honestly we Alaskans know remote and rural exist outside of Alaska, but there's a difference between remote with a road vs. remote without a road. It's not the same. Sorry.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:19 PM
 
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I was just trying to tell the other poster that a town does not have to have a lack of road access to be remote. Nor do I know any towns outside of Alaska that exist without road access except maybe a few isolated islands.
In Alaska, remote means no road access. It might mean something different in the -48 -- I've noticed that a lot of people refer to places that are 25 or so miles away from the nearest shopping center as "remote."

We've already explained to you ad nauseum why roads aren't feasible in many parts of Alaska, but it's obviously something that you can't understand.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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And...as far as the other poster you were trying to explain Alaska to, he was born in Alaska. You, on the other hand, have never set foot in the state and probably never will.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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57 below let me ask you:

Why do you think there are no big cities here? Not many roads?
Because it seems like there's a much lower percentage of cold lovers than there are heat lovers, yet more people would still rather stay in places like Texas and Florida and Arizona, or for some reason (idk why), find heat easier to deal with, than cold. But I'm confused by this because a recent poll about this I put up elsewhere, more people voted in favor of cold weather on C-D at least.

One reason I could guess (related to parenting) is that if they have small children, they would rather spare themselves from the trouble of children losing sleep over the almost 24-hour sunlight in the summer, maybe? Or because in the winter when the sun may not rise until at least 10AM, they wouldn't want their young children walking to school in the dark, even though it's considered a morning hour, by definition.

Or because of the travel from Alaska from the regular 48 states, is lengthy and expensive, to see other family outside of the state. And as a result, Alaska and Hawaii are taken less serious and are low on priority lists (albeit they are still part of the USA).

I'll say that many of the isolated villages don't want roads because of potential harassment from other strangers, from what I've been told.

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