Habemus Papam! White House releases new decennial MSA/CSA delineations (credit, gated community)

[Boston Shudra]

Originally Posted by manitopiaaa

• Boston: -Northeastern Connecticut

For the best!

[dontbelievehim]

Madera is fresnos placer county if you will. Finally.

[BlueRedTide]

Ohhh Boy Here We Go! I Can't Wait to see The New Info. I'll probably be looking at these All Night can't wait to see what some cities did

[manitopiaaa]

Originally Posted by TheTimidBlueBars

Anyone else notice that Kiryas Joel is now the primary city of the (now formerly) Poughkeepsie MSA?

That was my most controversial change prediction (see #10): https://www.city-data.com/forum/65458829-post1.html

I did pretty well on my other predictions (not to toot my own horn)

[manitopiaaa]

Here are the changes in population sizes that I’m tracking. I may be slightly off on one or two of these (having done much quality control). New Orleans was the only one to move between Tiers (Tier 1 > Tier 2). Quite stable at the MSA level, as expected.

Each * is a gain of 50,000. / = loss of 50,000.

1m Metro (Tier 1)
1. Atlanta (6,222,106 > 6,172,501)
2. Austin (2,421,115 > 2,421,115)
3. Baltimore (2,835,672 > 2,835,672)
4. Birmingham (1,116,857 > 1,181,196) *
5. Boston (4,900,550 > 4,900,550)
6. Buffalo (1,161,192 > 1,161,192)
7. Charlotte (2,756,069 > 2,756,069)
8. Chicago (9,441,957 > 9,274,140) ///
9. Cincinnati (2,265,051 > 2,258,099)
10. Cleveland (2,063,132 > 2,160,146) *
11. Columbus (2,161,511 > 2,161,511)
12. Dallas (7,943,685 > 7,943,685)
13. Denver (2,985,871 > 2,985,871)
14. Detroit (4,345,761 > 4,345,761)
15. Fresno (1,015,190 > 1,175,446) ***
16. Grand Rapids (1,094,198 > 1,157,752) *
17. Hartford (1,158,069 > 1,158,069)
18. Houston (7,340,118 > 7,368,466)
19. Indianapolis (2,141,779 > 2,119,839)
20. Jacksonville (1,675,668 > 1,675,668)
21. Kansas City (2,209,494 > 2,209,494)
22. Las Vegas (2,322,985 > 2,322,985)
23. Los Angeles (12,872,322 > 12,872,322)
24. Louisville (1,284,553 > 1,361,946) *
25. Memphis (1,332,305 > 1,339,855)
26. Miami (6,139,340 > 6,139,340)
27. Milwaukee (1,559,792 > 1,559,792)
28. Minneapolis (3,693,729 > 3,693,729)
29. Nashville (2,046,828 > 2,072,283)
30. New York (19,617,869 > 19,557,311) /
31. Oklahoma City (1,459,380 > 1,459,380)
32. Orlando (2,764,182 > 2,764,182)
33. Philadelphia (6,241,164 > 6,241,164)
34. Phoenix (5,015,678 > 5,015,678)
35. Pittsburgh (2,349,172 > 2,434,021) *
36. Portland (2,509,489 > 2,509,489)
37. Providence (1,673,802 > 1,673,802)
38. Raleigh (1,484,338 > 1,484,338)
39. Richmond (1,339,182 > 1,339,182)
40. Riverside (4,667,558 > 4,667,558)
41. Rochester (1,081,152 > 1,056,801)
42. Sacramento (2,416,702 > 2,416,702)
43. Saint Louis (2,801,319 > 2,801,319)
44. Salt Lake City (1,266,191 > 1,266,191)
45. San Antonio (2,655,342 > 2,655,342)
46. San Diego (3,276,208 > 3,276,208)
47. San Francisco (4,579,599 > 4,579,599)
48. San Jose (1,938,524 > 1,938,524)
49. San Juan (2,043,941 > n/a) Too Many Municipalities
50. Seattle (4,034,248 > 4,034,248)
51. Tampa (3,290,730 > 3,290,730)
52. Tucson (1,057,597 > 1,057,597)
53. Tulsa (1,034,123 > 1,034,123)
54. Virginia Beach (1,806,840 > 1,787,188)
55. Washington (6,373,756 > 6,279,183) /

500-1m (Tier 2)
1. Akron (697,627 > 697,627)
2. Albany (904,617 > 904,617)
3. Albuquerque (919,543 > 919,543)
4. Allentown (871,229 > 871,229)
5. Augusta (624,083 > 624,083)
6. Bakersfield (916,108 > 916,108)
7. Baton Rouge (873,060 > 873,060)
8. Boise City (811,336 > 811,336)
9. Bridgeport (950,976 > 950,976)
10. Cape Coral (822,453 > 822,453)
11. Charleston (830,529 > 830,529)
12. Chattanooga (574,507 > 574,507)
13. Colorado Springs (765,424 > 765,424)
14. Columbia (847,686 > 847,686)
15. Dayton (812,595 > 812,595)
16. Deltona (705,897 > 705,897)
17. Des Moines (729,053 > 729,053)
18. Durham (664,310 > 602,407) /
19. El Paso (872,195 > 872,195)
20. Fayetteville (576,403 > 576,403)
21. Greensboro (784,101 > 784,101)
22. Greenville (958,958 > 958,958)
23. Harrisburg (603,493 > 603,493)
24. Honolulu (995,638 > 995,638)
25. Huntsville (514,465 > 514,465)
26. Jackson (583,197 > 610,904)
27. Kiryas Joel (703,486 > 703,486)
28. Knoxville (907,968 > 932,245)
29. Lakeland (787,404 > 787,404)
30. Lancaster (556,629 > 556,629)
31. Lexington (517,916 > 517,916)
32. Little Rock (757,615 > 757,615)
33. Madison (687,077 > 687,077)
34. McAllen (888,367 > 888,367)
35. New Haven (1,027,327 > 573,244) /////////
37. New Orleans (1,246,146 > 972,913) /////
38. North Port (891,411 > 891,411)
39. Omaha (976,671 > 976,671)
40. Oxnard (832,605 > 832,605)
41. Palm Bay (630,693 > 630,693)
42. Pensacola (523,146 > 523,146)
43. Port Saint Lucie (520,710 > 520,710)
44. Portland-Maine Coast (561,576 > 561,576)
45. Provo (715,001 > 715,001)
46. Reno (500,915 > 562,500) *
47. Scranton (567,998 > 567,998)
48. Spokane (597,919 > 597,919)
49. Stockton (793,229 > 793,229)
50. Syracuse (653,633 > 653,633)
51. Toledo (640,384 > 600,406)
52. Winston-Salem (688,471 > 688,471)
53. Worcester (959,123 > 862,927) /

[cdw1084]

Originally Posted by manitopiaaa

Here are the changes in population sizes that I’m tracking. I may be slightly off on one or two of these (having done much quality control):

1m Metro
1. Atlanta (6,222,106 > 6,172,501)
2. Austin (2,421,115 > 2,421,115)
3. Baltimore (2,835,672 > 2,835,672)
4. Birmingham (1,116,857 > 1,181,196)
5. Boston (4,900,550 > 4,900,550)
6. Buffalo (1,161,192 > 1,161,192)
7. Charlotte (2,756,069 > 2,756,069)
8. Chicago (9,441,957 > 9,274,140)
9. Cincinnati (2,265,051 > 2,258,099)
10. Cleveland (2,063,132 > 2,160,146)
11. Columbus (2,161,511 > 2,161,511)
12. Dallas (7,943,685 > 7,943,685)
13. Denver (2,985,871 > 2,985,871)
14. Detroit (4,345,761 > 4,345,761)
15. Fresno (1,015,190 > 1,175,446)
16. Grand Rapids (1,094,198 > 1,157,752)
17. Hartford (1,158,069 > 1,158,069)
18. Houston (7,340,118 > 7,368,466)
19. Indianapolis (2,141,779 > 2,119,839)
20. Jacksonville (1,675,668 > 1,675,668)
21. Kansas City (2,209,494 > 2,209,494)
22. Las Vegas (2,322,985 > 2,322,985)
23. Los Angeles (12,872,322 > 12,872,322)
24. Louisville (1,284,553 > 1,361,946)
25. Memphis (1,332,305 > 1,339,855)
26. Miami (6,139,340 > 6,139,340)
27. Milwaukee (1,559,792 > 1,559,792)
28. Minneapolis (3,693,729 > 3,693,729)
29. Nashville (2,046,828 > 2,072,283)
30. New York (19,617,869 > 19,557,311)
31. Oklahoma City (1,459,380 > 1,459,380)
32. Orlando (2,764,182 > 2,764,182)
33. Philadelphia (6,241,164 > 6,241,164)
34. Phoenix (5,015,678 > 5,015,678)
35. Pittsburgh (2,349,172 > 2,434,021)
36. Portland (2,509,489 > 2,509,489)
37. Providence (1,673,802 > 1,673,802)
38. Raleigh (1,484,338 > 1,484,338)
39. Richmond (1,339,182 > 1,339,182)
40. Riverside (4,667,558 > 4,667,558)
41. Rochester (1,081,152 > 1,056,801)
42. Sacramento (2,416,702 > 2,416,702)
43. Saint Louis (2,801,319 > 2,801,319)
44. Salt Lake City (1,266,191 > 1,266,191)
45. San Antonio (2,655,342 > 2,655,342)
46. San Diego (3,276,208 > 3,276,208)
47. San Francisco (4,579,599 > 4,579,599)
48. San Jose (1,938,524 > 1,938,524)
49. San Juan (2,043,941 > n/a) Too Many Municipalities
50. Seattle (4,034,248 > 4,034,248)
51. Tampa (3,290,730 > 3,290,730)
52. Tucson (1,057,597 > 1,057,597)
53. Tulsa (1,034,123 > 1,034,123)
54. Virginia Beach (1,806,840 > 1,787,188)
55. Washington (6,373,756 > 6,279,183)

500-1m
1. Akron (697,627 > 697,627)
2. Albany (904,617 > 904,617)
3. Albuquerque (919,543 > 919,543)
4. Allentown (871,229 > 871,229)
5. Augusta (624,083 > 624,083)
6. Bakersfield (916,108 > 916,108)
7. Baton Rouge (873,060 > 873,060)
8. Boise City (811,336 > 811,336)
9. Bridgeport (950,976 > 950,976)
10. Cape Coral (822,453 > 822,453)
11. Charleston (830,529 > 830,529)
12. Chattanooga (574,507 > 574,507)
13. Colorado Springs (765,424 > 765,424)
14. Columbia (847,686 > 847,686)
15. Dayton (812,595 > 812,595)
16. Deltona (705,897 > 705,897)
17. Des Moines (729,053 > 729,053)
18. Durham (664,310 > 602,407)
19. El Paso (872,195 > 872,195)
20. Fayetteville (576,403 > 576,403)
21. Greensboro (784,101 > 784,101)
22. Greenville (958,958 > 958,958)
23. Harrisburg (603,493 > 603,493)
24. Honolulu (995,638 > 995,638)
25. Huntsville (514,465 > 514,465)
26. Jackson (583,197 > 610,904)
27. Kiryas Joel (703,486 > 703,486)
28. Knoxville (907,968 > 932,245)
29. Lakeland (787,404 > 787,404)
30. Lancaster (556,629 > 556,629)
31. Lexington (517,916 > 517,916)
32. Little Rock (757,615 > 757,615)
33. Madison (687,077 > 687,077)
34. McAllen (888,367 > 888,367)
35. New Haven (1,027,327 > 573,244)
37. New Orleans (1,246,146 > 972,913)
38. North Port (891,411 > 891,411)
39. Omaha (976,671 > 976,671)
40. Oxnard (832,605 > 832,605)
41. Palm Bay (630,693 > 630,693)
42. Pensacola (523,146 > 523,146)
43. Port Saint Lucie (520,710 > 520,710)
44. Portland-Maine Coast (561,576 > 561,576)
45. Provo (715,001 > 715,001)
46. Reno (500,915 > 562,500)
47. Scranton (567,998 > 567,998)
48. Spokane (597,919 > 597,919)
49. Stockton (793,229 > 793,229)
50. Syracuse (653,633 > 653,633)
51. Toledo (640,384 > 600,406)
52. Winston-Salem (688,471 > 688,471)
53. Worcester (959,123 > 862,927)

Great work! Atlanta lost Lamar County, roughly 20,000. DC lost Calvert County, around 93,000 people. I think their population is slightly off.

[unusualfire]

New Haven is weird. Losing 500k from it's metro but gaining 1.5M in it's CSA.

[Cybernerd88]

The biggest shocker to me is that the Lubbock metro area now extends to the New Mexico border.

31180 Lubbock, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area
Principal City: Lubbock
Cochran County, Crosby County, Garza County, Hockley County, Lubbock
County, Lynn County

Highlighted were the already existing counties.

[TheTimidBlueBars]

Originally Posted by manitopiaaa

That was my most controversial change prediction (see #10): https://www.city-data.com/forum/65458829-post1.html

I did pretty well on my other predictions (not to toot my own horn)

Oh yeah, that prediction was in the back of my mind, so I checked it out.

Originally Posted by Cybernerd88

The biggest shocker to me is that the Lubbock metro area now extends to the New Mexico border.

31180 Lubbock, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area
Principal City: Lubbock
Cochran County, Crosby County, Garza County, Hockley County, Lubbock
County, Lynn County

Highlighted were the already existing counties.

Wow, an MSA going from 3 to 7 counties in a few years is nuts. That puts Bend going from 1 to 3 to shame.

I'm surprised the non-Lubbock counties of the MSA are even developed enough that it needs to sprawl out farther. I guess Texans really love their large plots of land.

[g500]

Very small, very initial takeaways (feel free to correct me if I am wong)

The state of Connecticut is odd. Not that I disagree with the change to Planning Regions, I just imagine many may now argue CT's MSAs are not apples-to-apples with all other MSAs which are based on county lines. I do not mind the change personally given the nuances of CT's oddly-shaped counties. Has any state ever deviated from county lines?

Baldwin County AL remains separate of Mobile AL

Elkhart and South Bend remain separate

Mikwuakee still does not pick up Kenosha nor Racine Counties. This still baffles me.

La Crosse, Wisconsin picked up Vernon County (139k MSA previously, adding a 30k to get to ~170k). That is big.

Youngstown OH lost Mercer County PA (110k)... woah. Hermitage PA becomes its own micro SA.

Pittsburgh adds Lawrence County (+86k), containing New Castle PA, which makes sense.

Lebanon PA remains seperate (not grabbed by either the Harrisburg-Carlisle MSA or the Lancaster MSA).

Jackson MS added Scott County MS (27k). Going from 583k to ~610k

Baton Rouge LA is nearly Louisiana's most populous MSA as New Orleans continues to hemorrhage population.

Midland TX and Odessa TX remain separate. Midland adds tiny Martin County TX (only 5k) to its MSA.

Fayetteville AR added nothing (surprising given its rapid growth)

Hilton Head SC and Savannah remain separate

Corpus Christi added Aransas County TX (+23k going from 421k to ~444k)

So weird to me that Sarasota's MSA is headlined by North Port (and has for some time/always?). I always think of Sarasota principally, or Bradenton secondly. The airport is called Sarasota-Bradenton International. I could not find Sarasota initially since it is filed under Noeth Port, and I briefly thought it had been absorbed by Tampa...

Trenton/Princeton (Mercer County NJ) remains separate of Philadelphia *scratches head and wonders how this is possible*

Cannot really tell, did Charleston WV lose Lincoln and Jackson Counties WV?

Did Huntington WV gain Lawrence County KY?

Toledo OH lost Ottawa County -40k (646k to 606k). Ouch.