Can The Citizens of Yakima Afford This? (Connell, Republic: student loan, school)

[Diana Holbrook]

The only thing I agree with you on, is that this conversation here is a waste of time. :-)

Kick it down the road. Maybe the next administration will solve it.

[Ruth4Truth]

lol. OP, you do realize, don't you, that there's no proof of anything in that tweet? No proof that the tweeter's take on it is accurate?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

I am for legal immigration.
My family had to wait 3 years in a European migrant camp (in Munich) to be properly vetted because my parents were from the other side of the iron curtain (East Germany).
My brother and I were born in that camp.

I think all migrants should be properly vetted and add a benefit to this country before being allowed in.
This could be in any field from science to field labor.
It is doing our country a disservice to allow otherwise.
Breaking these rules should be a punishable crime and no one should be above the law.

That's the way it used to be, after WWII. One problem with "properly vetted" is, that people from E Europe can, and so, bribe their officials for a clean slate to present to US authorities. I don't understand why the State Dept. isn't wise to this. But also, the lottery system that's been in place for E European prospective immigrants for decades means the "benefit to this country" criterion has been eliminated for that sector.

[texasdiver]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

That's the way it used to be, after WWII. One problem with "properly vetted" is, that people from E Europe can, and so, bribe their officials for a clean slate to present to US authorities. I don't understand why the State Dept. isn't wise to this. But also, the lottery system that's been in place for E European prospective immigrants for decades means the "benefit to this country" criterion has been eliminated for that sector.

The State Department is extremely aware of the vagaries of local police and authorities in chaotic countries around the world, not just Eastern Europe. That is what they do. They evaluate documents from places like Afghanistan and Myanmar not just Poland and have standards and procedures in place for this very issue. They do know what they are doing.

[texasdiver]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

I am for legal immigration.
My family had to wait 3 years in a European migrant camp (in Munich) to be properly vetted because my parents were from the other side of the iron curtain (East Germany).
My brother and I were born in that camp.

I think all migrants should be properly vetted and add a benefit to this country before being allowed in.
This could be in any field from science to field labor.
It is doing our country a disservice to allow otherwise.
Breaking these rules should be a punishable crime and no one should be above the law.

There are lots of avenues for immigration. What you are talking about is the traditional route through the green card lottery. There are also...

1. People who enter on tourist visas or from visa-waiver countries like the EU and get jobs and overstay their visas. Look at how many Irish, Brits, and Aussies are illegally working as bartenders in NYC for example. No one much notices because they speak English and aren't "brown"

2. People who enter under claims of refugee status or who are making asylum claims. Under the UN Convention on Refugees from 1951 under which the US was a main sponsor and supporter you do not have to pre-apply. You are allowed under international law to actually cross borders on foot and then present your claim after you have already entered. When rich white people made illegal border crossings on foot to make refugee or asylum claims we wrote Academy Award-winning musicals about it. Today when they are brown we scream about migrant caravans "invading" the border.




The Sound of Music: "Climb Every Mountain" https://youtu.be/jvDFoF9sfQA

[Diana Holbrook]

Why are you people on the left constantly talking about people being "brown"? Are you trying to scare people? Who? Why?

I think most of us are over it. It's time for you to grow up. It's you taking us backwards, not me.

[MechAndy]

Most legal immigrants regardless of their color don’t much care for the unvented flood gates to be open.
I would wager most reasonable people feel that way too.

[PS90]

Originally Posted by Arcos

No, the citizens of Yakima cannot afford a person describing human beings as being ‘released into society’ as if they are somehow evil and a threat. They can, however, afford to ignore those who choose to incite anger and fear and instead get more involved in their government, learn about the issues from different points of view and work constructively to solve problems in a bipartisan manner, while strengthening their state and nation.

As our President has shown, bipartisanship is the way forward.

Are you serious???

In his recent speech touting his infrastructure bill (that he FINALLY got all the democrats on board for), Biden made a point to call out the Republicans, because he was mad at them for not supporting him. There was no reason to include that part of the speech - it didn't further the agenda in any way. It was simply a jab at the other side.

In other words, it was partisanship.

[rkcarguy]

Yakima does have an illegal problem. A cost analysis I reviewed a few years ago noted that Yakima had the highest medical care costs in the state and even up there in the entire US. (looking at average costs for various procedures), which initially had me scratching my head.
What its from is the large illegal population receiving care and not paying for it. Providers are not able to refuse care, so the bill is passed onto the rest of those in the area.

[Arcos]

Originally Posted by PS90

Are you serious???

In his recent speech touting his infrastructure bill (that he FINALLY got all the democrats on board for), Biden made a point to call out the Republicans, because he was mad at them for not supporting him. There was no reason to include that part of the speech - it didn't further the agenda in any way. It was simply a jab at the other side.

In other words, it was partisanship.

*sigh* where to begin… you obviously don’t really follow or understand politics.

First of all, Biden would not have chastised Republicans over the infrastructure bill because McConnell and several members of the Senate GOP voted FOR the infrastructure bill. In fact, McConnell called it ‘a godsend’

https://www.businessinsider.com/mitc...ks-2021-11?amp

And of course, Trump attacked McConnell for his and Biden’s bipartisanship.

So, by your own error, you allow me to prove my point.

Now, you MEANT to say ‘IRA bill’ which is the misnamed ‘Inflation Reduction Act’ that doesn’t *really* reduce inflation. Biden chastised Republicans for not voting for it, so basically complaining that they weren’t acting in a bipartisan manner. Why? Because the IRA pays down the deficit, and has lots of goodies for the oil and gas industry, so you’d think that the GOP would at least get in the mix, propose some serious amendments and perhaps make the bill more palatable for the right and then vote for it.

But they didn’t. Still, because Democratic Senator Manchin is quite conservative, he made sure the bill had things in it for both sides.

Once again, the Democratic Party is always ready to make a deal if it allows America to make progress against problems. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t ‘call out’ the other side, that’s perfectly fine, we don’t have to pretend we love each other. State your differences and then work them out!