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Old 11-08-2021, 01:40 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I do agree that 1,700 feet is a big difference in temperatures.
Where we are at half of that means you know how to use a snow shovel.
1,700 ft + Columbia Gorge = a heap of difference, and a good time to fetch some old fashioned golf shoes with metal spikes (or Glacier Ice Crampons) and tie a line between home and mailbox.

Our home can get coated in 3" of ice, can't see out, can't get out. (But it keeps pretty warm with no wind infiltration. )

When it starts to melt, you find out if your home is 'submarine quality' (Leakproof)
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Old 11-08-2021, 09:13 PM
 
Location: the Gorge
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1700 maybe? (Jackie, Mt. Rainier is only at about 14,000 feet!)
LOL, one extra zero makes a difference!

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1,700 ft + Columbia Gorge = a heap of difference, and a good time to fetch some old fashioned golf shoes with metal spikes (or Glacier Ice Crampons) and tie a line between home and mailbox.

Our home can get coated in 3" of ice, can't see out, can't get out. (But it keeps pretty warm with no wind infiltration. )

When it starts to melt, you find out if your home is 'submarine quality' (Leakproof)
if we get coated in ice I'm just staying home, same if 4 feet of snow as my landlady says can happen and then she says the roads get plowed pretty good, but the driveway has to wait until the ONE guy with a plow gets to us.

and I couldn't afford a new Subaru so I got an old one, to supplement my old Toyota. still need new tires and then I'm as ready as I can be.

oh, but I still need rain boots.
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Old 11-08-2021, 10:42 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Ice is not a usual concern in Seattle. Snowfall is something different. It is EXTREMELY variable. Some winters get nothing, others get a foot or more. (This based on my observations from the past 50+ years). It is a crap shoot. And I mean a "CRAP" shoot! Yes, it seems snow was heavier back in the 60's and 70's, but there have been snow storms in recent decades that were severe. Who knows? Like I said, it is anyone's guess. Be prepared for heavy snow, but also be prepared for no snow at all. Such is a Seattle winter.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: WA
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For men or women, look for waterproof slip-on boots for casual around town wear. Mostly you will be navigating wet pavement, puddles, and mud, not snow. Some examples.

Blundstone



Keen



Rossi




etc....
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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The scariest thing for me is slipping on ice on pavement or concrete & I STILL haven't found a reliable anti-slip for that. Mud, etc. isn't an issue.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:41 PM
 
Location: West coast
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These are the ones my wife got.
They seem nice enough.

I just bought me some chest waders with attached boots to fish the River.
Did you know they sell little spike inserts for them to keep you from slipping on mossy rocks in the River?
Looks like snow tire studs.

I might get some and add just a couple for walking on the ice.
They can also be removed easy enough.
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Old 11-10-2021, 04:10 AM
 
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^^Are you talking about crampons? I know that is what my kid uses for backpacking on trails with snow & ice...but that's in Colorado.

Someone gave me some chain-like things that go over boots, but they don't stay in place.
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Old 11-10-2021, 08:10 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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^^Are you talking about crampons? I know that is what my kid uses for backpacking on trails with snow & ice...but that's in Colorado.

Someone gave me some chain-like things that go over boots, but they don't stay in place.
Having lived all over the PNW and now in AK, I've tried lots of ice cleat combinations for shoes over the years. Chain cleats, spikes, golf shoes, and all the different Yaktraks. I've tried the cheaper roll-into-a-pocket ice cleats but many only have 2-3 cleats on the toe and none on the heel. What's the point? Most people put most of their weight on their heels, not toes!

The ones I feel are most versatile and keep going back to are Stabilicers Light. They fit more snugly than the chain type grips but much like the original Yaktraks, are still easy to pull off when you reach your destination. The metal cleats are not so sharp that they'll damage carpet or flooring (so you can walk indoors or on thawed hard surfaces for a short distance...carefully...they'll slip on hard smooth surfaces if you don't pay attention). Nice for surfaces that keep changing from ice to snow to clear. They will fit a variety of shoe types and roll up into a purse. REI has them but you can get them various places...

https://www.rei.com/product/760710/s...action-devices

When we get that truly Zamboni-smooth rock hard ice with an inch of rain on top I find Yaktraks slip. Stabilicers not so much. Yaktraks work a little better in deeper fresh snow. I've also found that Yaktraks are a bit more likely to get snagged on car foot pedals while driving. Stabilicers don't because they don't have those coil loops that cross the sole of the shoe.

Another option for serious ice are Icebugs shoes. The cleats are embedded in the sole of the shoe itself. Yes, the cleats are sharp so you need to take the shoes off when you go indoors. My Icebugs are zip off boots so they're easy to remove when you hit the indoors. They now offer a pull on "overshoe" that will protect floors from the cleats. They can roll up into a pocket.
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Old 11-10-2021, 08:45 AM
 
Location: West coast
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Those look cool Parnassia.

Our area is easy enough to walk around on until you walk on the deck.
I have to walk on an iced deck to enter my house.

The ones I saw that interested me was the stud insert kind.
I think I might install one or two on a shoe to try them out.
I don’t need much so it might work.
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Old 11-10-2021, 11:19 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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Those look cool Parnassia.

Our area is easy enough to walk around on until you walk on the deck.
I have to walk on an iced deck to enter my house.

The ones I saw that interested me was the stud insert kind.
I think I might install one or two on a shoe to try them out.
I don’t need much so it might work.
I keep a pair in my car. If the ice condition where I happen to go is different than the one I just left, I've got something on hand. If you arrive home to an icy deck, you'll have something to put on your shoes.
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