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Old 12-16-2023, 09:42 AM
 
Location: East TN
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I'm not sure if that is true of the working class. They go to work, come home, crash, and eventually retire. Social Security uses the terms "retirement" benefit and "survivors" benefit. A beneficiary, of course, could be both retired and a survivor. It is not unreasonable for a retired survivor to be surprised when she learns she can only be one or the other.
WHAT??!! What an elitist, snobby thing to say. Sorry to be the one to inform you that "working class" people are just as intelligent, capable, and apparently more clued into reality, than someone who would post that. As a "working class" person, I guarantee our lives never consisted of go to work, come home, crash, and retire. We planned, saved, and made our life decisions many, many years in advance so that we would never be "surprised" to learn the difference between have and have not. Maybe "read the room" before making such tactless (and classless) statements.
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Old 12-16-2023, 10:20 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I'm not sure if that is true of the working class. They go to work, come home, crash, and eventually retire. Social Security uses the terms "retirement" benefit and "survivors" benefit. A beneficiary, of course, could be both retired and a survivor. It is not unreasonable for a retired survivor to be surprised when she learns she can only be one or the other.
If you have a job then you are "working class" which makes up the majority of Americans.
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Old 12-16-2023, 10:29 AM
 
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If you have a job then you are "working class" which makes up the majority of Americans.
I've never met anyone in my life who wasn't working class meaning everyone I have known worked for what they have and I don't know any royalty or someone who inherited a fortune.
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Old 12-16-2023, 10:34 AM
 
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"Working class" is defined as "manual or industrial work." Also called "blue collar," including the trades. Jobs that are not only not among the professions (law, medicine, education), but not requiring college; only training, either vocational or on-the-job. I wouldn't consider it an insult, however; they often make more money than those with useless liberal arts degrees...
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Old 12-16-2023, 10:51 AM
 
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"Working class" is defined as "manual or industrial work." Also called "blue collar," including the trades. Jobs that are not only not among the professions (law, medicine, education), but not requiring college; only training, either vocational or on-the-job. I wouldn't consider it an insult, however; they often make more money than those with useless liberal arts degrees...
Well then they should call it manual labor class since almost everyone works and usually works hard for their income regardless if they're a lawyer or a plumber.
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Old 12-16-2023, 11:01 AM
 
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Maybe you could sell earplugs for those who don't care for all that harp music, or maybe ice-water will be in demand.
Will be buried with a yeti cooler filled with ice just to be on the safe side.
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Old 12-16-2023, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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It's a known fact that if DH passes I will get half of his pension amount, so we plan for it.
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Old 12-16-2023, 02:42 PM
 
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Well then they should call it manual labor class since almost everyone works and usually works hard for their income regardless if they're a lawyer or a plumber.
...or we could just learn the language/lexicon as it is? I think most people understand that, by "working class," we DON'T mean lawyers.
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Old 12-16-2023, 02:56 PM
 
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...or we could just learn the language/lexicon as it is? I think most people understand that, by "working class," we DON'T mean lawyers.
Or we could be more specific when we discuss such things so it's not assumed everyone who works for a living is in the "working class" because they don't usually get their hands dirty, even though the word "working" is used as in going to work every day to earn money and take home a paycheck.

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Old 12-16-2023, 02:59 PM
 
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It wouldn't be a "class" of workers if it referred to all working people, as that's MOST people.

Way to unnecessarily complicate things!

John Lennon wrote a great song: "Working Class Hero." I think we all knew what he meant.

Not rich or privileged or an attorney.

But we digress...
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