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Laws like all other things evolves.
We now have the laws of differing religions to compare with laws of secular governments.
After doing a scan of these various systems of laws, I have concluded that secular laws seems to be more moral than religious law.
Most religions seem to be religions of exclusion instead of inclusion. Us against them. Turn or burn type of religions.
Most secular laws seems to be more universal and try to include more of it’s population while justifying or allowing some level of freedom for it’s people.
This being the case, Secularism will eventually win the hearts and minds of more of the population and will eventually become the religion of choice, if I may use that term, for the whole world.
Am I right in this or would someone like to show where religious law is superior to secular law?
A good starting point might be to speak to the issues of Gays, the equality of woman and the treatment of slaves.
We now have the laws of differing religions to compare with laws of secular governments.
After doing a scan of these various systems of laws, I have concluded that secular laws seems to be more moral than religious law.
Most religions seem to be religions of exclusion instead of inclusion. Us against them. Turn or burn type of religions.
Then you are really misunderstanding religions, the only ones who are excluded are those who reject the faith and even then the faith tries to reach out to them and help them.
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Most secular laws seems to be more universal and try to include more of it’s population while justifying or allowing some level of freedom for it’s people.
And they seem to be more accepting of immoral acts and allow people to commit obsenities, you know like homosexuality, porn, shacking up, drerssing in obsene manners and so forth, freedom to offend those with good moral upbringing. Yeah that is really moral and inclusive.
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This being the case, Secularism will eventually win the hearts and minds of more of the population and will eventually become the religion of choice, if I may use that term, for the whole world.
By enticing them with the most vile and immoral of bait.
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Am I right in this or would someone like to show where religious law is superior to secular law?
Already did, so you are wrong.
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A good starting point might be to speak to the issues of Gays, the equality of woman and the treatment of slaves.
Okay you brought up the gays so I have addressed homosexuality and now I am going to give you something to think about. What about someones freedon to not be exposed to sexual immorality. Lets see 1% of the population is believed to be gay and the other 99% has to accept that and be exposed to their immorality. Sounds like the freedoms of the few outweigh the freedoms of the many.
Women are treated equally, but I know you want to blame religion for this, well I can only address the Christian perspective. Today they are treated equally but seperately. There are certain jobs that men are built for and women are not and vise versa. When I was working garbage we had a woman who came in and demanded to get paid the same as our best worker. Claimed she could outwork him. She lasted 10 minutes. Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe equal work for equal pay.
As for slavery, you really need to address something else considering it was abolished here over 100 years ago and is currently in the guise of normal employment. As for the Biblical perspective slaves were to be treated like family or employees. As a matter of fact slaves were to be treated so well they would not want their freedom if it were offered to them. But of course you are looking at the word slavery and not the differing uses of the system.
All thoughout history countries ruled by secular law have been more prosperous and sucessful then those ruled by religious law. Even today Secular Europe, East Asia, and the Americas blow the religious run Middle East out of the water.
It was the same in the past when secular China dominated Medieval Europe in prosparity and technology. In fact Europe only began to be able to compete with China during the renaisonce when religious law began to break down. Additionally the more secular governed Romans and Greeks destroyed their more religious counterparts in the Middle East. In fact the Roman Empire began to decline much more percipitously when strict religious law was introduced in the 4th century AD.
I dunno if secular is better than religious law, but I do know that the foundation of every nation's law should be the Universal Declaration of Human Rights*.
Laws like all other things evolves.
We now have the laws of differing religions to compare with laws of secular governments.
After doing a scan of these various systems of laws, I have concluded that secular laws seems to be more moral than religious law.
Most religions seem to be religions of exclusion instead of inclusion. Us against them. Turn or burn type of religions.
Most secular laws seems to be more universal and try to include more of it’s population while justifying or allowing some level of freedom for it’s people.
This being the case, Secularism will eventually win the hearts and minds of more of the population and will eventually become the religion of choice, if I may use that term, for the whole world.
Am I right in this or would someone like to show where religious law is superior to secular law?
A good starting point might be to speak to the issues of Gays, the equality of woman and the treatment of slaves.
Regards
DL
I agree Secular law is hands down better than any religious law. I actually view religious law as a method of controlling the population for the purpose of gaining power and wealth for the few (Church). It is no more than a political tool.
Secular law, if managed correctly, views from a neutral point of view. You know it is working as designed if everyone is upset with the rules. This is one of the main reasons I see a Supreme Court with a division of conservatives and liberals as the most important balance of power in our US government.
Secular laws can be improved and updated to change any lack of fairness. Secular laws don't use undefinable labels as immoral. Religious laws don't make any progress; they are not open for discussion and/or criticism.
Then you are really misunderstanding religions, the only ones who are excluded are those who reject the faith and even then the faith tries to reach out to them and help them.
And they seem to be more accepting of immoral acts and allow people to commit obsenities, you know like homosexuality, porn, shacking up, drerssing in obsene manners and so forth, freedom to offend those with good moral upbringing. Yeah that is really moral and inclusive.
By enticing them with the most vile and immoral of bait.
Already did, so you are wrong.
Okay you brought up the gays so I have addressed homosexuality and now I am going to give you something to think about. What about someones freedon to not be exposed to sexual immorality. Lets see 1% of the population is believed to be gay and the other 99% has to accept that and be exposed to their immorality. Sounds like the freedoms of the few outweigh the freedoms of the many.
Women are treated equally, but I know you want to blame religion for this, well I can only address the Christian perspective. Today they are treated equally but seperately. There are certain jobs that men are built for and women are not and vise versa. When I was working garbage we had a woman who came in and demanded to get paid the same as our best worker. Claimed she could outwork him. She lasted 10 minutes. Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe equal work for equal pay.
As for slavery, you really need to address something else considering it was abolished here over 100 years ago and is currently in the guise of normal employment. As for the Biblical perspective slaves were to be treated like family or employees. As a matter of fact slaves were to be treated so well they would not want their freedom if it were offered to them. But of course you are looking at the word slavery and not the differing uses of the system.
Refering to what I made red and bold....These are your examples of laws going downhill?! Sexual habits and dressing should not be regulated by law anyhow! Back in OT times those people would've been killed. Not now.
One thing you have to say about C-D: everything, and I do mean everything, comes down to "better." My city is better than your city. My religion is better than your religion. My candidate for President is better than your candidate. My law is better than your law. Before I discovered this site, I had absolutely no idea that everything in the world could be categorized so simply.
Then you are really misunderstanding religions, the only ones who are excluded are those who reject the faith and even then the faith tries to reach out to them and help them.
And they seem to be more accepting of immoral acts and allow people to commit obsenities, you know like homosexuality, porn, shacking up, drerssing in obsene manners and so forth, freedom to offend those with good moral upbringing. Yeah that is really moral and inclusive.
By enticing them with the most vile and immoral of bait.
Already did, so you are wrong.
Okay you brought up the gays so I have addressed homosexuality and now I am going to give you something to think about. What about someones freedon to not be exposed to sexual immorality. Lets see 1% of the population is believed to be gay and the other 99% has to accept that and be exposed to their immorality. Sounds like the freedoms of the few outweigh the freedoms of the many.
Women are treated equally, but I know you want to blame religion for this, well I can only address the Christian perspective. Today they are treated equally but seperately. There are certain jobs that men are built for and women are not and vise versa. When I was working garbage we had a woman who came in and demanded to get paid the same as our best worker. Claimed she could outwork him. She lasted 10 minutes. Dont get me wrong, I firmly believe equal work for equal pay.
As for slavery, you really need to address something else considering it was abolished here over 100 years ago and is currently in the guise of normal employment. As for the Biblical perspective slaves were to be treated like family or employees. As a matter of fact slaves were to be treated so well they would not want their freedom if it were offered to them. But of course you are looking at the word slavery and not the differing uses of the system.
I see that you quit picking up garbage and are now trying to sell it.
I was under the impression that your God created our natures and souls.
Why then does he create Gay souls. For you to hate. It's working.
Refering to what I made red and bold....These are your examples of laws going downhill?! Sexual habits and dressing should not be regulated by law anyhow! Back in OT times those people would've been killed. Not now.
Shame on you for not being concerned with what people do with their personal body parts.
Just kidding.
Keep thinking right.
Regards
DL
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I dunno if secular is better than religious law, but I do know that the foundation of every nation's law should be the Universal Declaration of Human Rights*.
