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Old 03-24-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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All thoughout history countries ruled by secular law have been more prosperous and sucessful then those ruled by religious law. Even today Secular Europe, East Asia, and the Americas blow the religious run Middle East out of the water.

It was the same in the past when secular China dominated Medieval Europe in prosparity and technology. In fact Europe only began to be able to compete with China during the renaisonce when religious law began to break down. Additionally the more secular governed Romans and Greeks destroyed their more religious counterparts in the Middle East. In fact the Roman Empire began to decline much more percipitously when strict religious law was introduced in the 4th century AD.
Thank God for that. LOL.

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DL
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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I dunno if secular is better than religious law, but I do know that the foundation of every nation's law should be the Universal Declaration of Human Rights*.
Good point.

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Old 03-24-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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I agree Secular law is hands down better than any religious law. I actually view religious law as a method of controlling the population for the purpose of gaining power and wealth for the few (Church). It is no more than a political tool.
Secular law, if managed correctly, views from a neutral point of view. You know it is working as designed if everyone is upset with the rules. This is one of the main reasons I see a Supreme Court with a division of conservatives and liberals as the most important balance of power in our US government.
Not only that but if you have a beef, you can put it in front of an actual judge. With religion the judge is on a perpetual holiday and his minions are to out of it without their shepherd that all the can do is bleat away and say the books way of hell for you. Oh well.

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Old 03-24-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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"No secular law is a slippery slope."

Secular laws can be improved and updated to change any lack of fairness. Secular laws don't use undefinable labels as immoral. Religious laws don't make any progress; they are not open for discussion and/or criticism.
That or if the big guy is peeved, he uses genocide as justice.
Nothing wrong with that if you can swim for 40 days and nights I guess.

Hell our Secularist judges don't even carry a bombs. I guess they are old fashioned and do not kill as readily as God.

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Old 03-24-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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One thing you have to say about C-D: everything, and I do mean everything, comes down to "better." My city is better than your city. My religion is better than your religion. My candidate for President is better than your candidate. My law is better than your law. Before I discovered this site, I had absolutely no idea that everything in the world could be categorized so simply.
Not always that simple but it nice to be able to at least see the evidence and chose for yourself instead of some old book telling you how to think and vote.

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Old 03-24-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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I must have worded this one right. Religionist are conspicuous with their absence.

I feel so good, I made them fear this Lord of ideas more than their own. Me and the help of you guys.

Thanks.

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Old 03-24-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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I must have worded this one right. Religionist are conspicuous with their absence.

I feel so good, I made them fear this Lord of ideas more than their own. Me and the help of you guys.

Thanks.

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DL

Religious law is better as it is God's law. What 'weakness' that a secular person sees with that kind of law is mostly due to how the laws are interpreted and carried out - sadly, mis-interpretation and miscarriage are so often the case. Those entrusted to enforce the laws often end up abusing them. That is human weakenss not God's.
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Religious law is better as it is God's law. What 'weakness' that a secular person sees with that kind of law is mostly due to how the laws are interpreted and carried out - sadly, mis-interpretation and miscarriage are so often the case. Those entrusted to enforce the laws often end up abusing them. That is human weakenss not God's.
If God's laws are so good then why does he break his own laws of killing man?

Genocide is a sin of high order. Killing that many children and babies must have been fun for him especally with people like you handing him the buckets of water.

Bring the buckets slave.

All those animals must have been evil as well.

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Old 03-24-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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If God's laws are so good then why does he break his own laws of killing man?

Genocide is a sin of high order. Killing that many children and babies must have been fun for him especally with people like you handing him the buckets of water.

Bring the buckets slave.

All those animals must have been evil as well.

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DL
But you are applying a mortal's concept to God. Those people have been warned countless times by the prophets yet they still ignore. We are after all His creations and thus He can do what He pleases with us.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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But you are applying a mortal's concept to God. Those people have been warned countless times by the prophets yet they still ignore. We are after all His creations and thus He can do what He pleases with us.
God gave man dominion over the earth and ourselves and our laws. He gave up the right, if your imaginary God can be said to have any, to punish.

Did he lie about that as well?

We know he breaks his own laws. Does he break his word as well?

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