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I'm no different than any of the many non-believers that post on here. Only thing is, apparently I'm getting on your nerves a bit because you simply cannot answer the question.
At what point does a human become human? What makes it immoral to murder another human being?
You don't get on folks' nerves because they can't answer your questions. You get on folks' nerves because they answer your questions and then you can't accept those answers.
You don't get on folks' nerves because they can't answer your questions. You get on folks' nerves because they answer your questions and then you can't accept those answers.
Nobody has answered the question I started this thread with. Certainly not you or SuSuSushi.
What are you asking specifically? Is this an abortion question, or are you asking when humans branched off the primate tree to become a separate species...I'm betting that it is the former.
Nobody has answered the question I started this thread with. Certainly not you or SuSuSushi.
Just answer the question. That's all I want.
Yes they have but you are not interested in the answers, all you do is ignore the answers and just ask question after question in the hopes that some atheist runs out of answers.
It's a permutation of the Gish gallop tactic or even worse, It's like that annoying kid that asks a question and then ends every single answer in "but why?"
You asked when did humans get souls and we answered you that we don't believe in a soul.
What makes it immoral to murder another human being? How about respect. If I don't respect your life, I can't really expect you to respect mine. If that doesn't do the trick, then things are looking pretty hopeless!
At what point did we become human and it was wrong to kill each other?
When did human beings evolve a soul?
At what point did we become human: This argument can go on and on if we can not agree upon "did humans evolve". Looking at this from an evolution standpoint, we became Homo Sapien Sapiens about 200,000 years ago.
As for is it wrong to kill each other, there are very few animals in nature that practice killing just for the sake of killing. Most animals kill for a purpose in mind, and normally it's for the propagation of the species. I'll let you draw your own conclusion on if it's wrong to kill another person.
My definition of a soul is most likely different than yours, I don't see the soul as a gift from a superbeing. For me, when did man evolve a soul, when man became intelligent enough to manifest his thoughts into action.
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Thought I'd remind you of your original thread point, kd...
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At what point did we become human and it was wrong to kill each other?
When did human beings evolve a soul?
Then you added and expanded it, when the obvious, truthful and simple answers came streaming in....
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So what makes a human human? Is it wrong to murder? If not, why not? What separates humans from chimps?
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Would you just answer the question?
Is it wrong to murder? If not, why not?
"The" Question? Which One? True Evolution (of your question) seems to be going on here, for all to see. There! Proved Again!
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What gives a human being a right to life?
Huh? And this relates to Evolution how, exactly? BTW, your abject and fervent hatred of the Laws of Evolution is showing again!
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Less than 2% of our DNA.
Maybe the human soul is in that 1-2 percent? Dunno - Other than humans' higher cognitive functioning, I don't see much difference between them and chimps. We are very similar animals.
More than just a little similar, b. frank. They, in many ways, are better than us. They care for each other, they do not abuse their environment, and they don't try to force false mythologies on each other. They have a kindly "soul"; ours is proven to be rather destructive and warlike, driven by greed, power-mongering and jealosy. Especially the religious groups.
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I'm no different than any of the many non-believers that post on here. Only thing is, apparently I'm getting on your nerves a bit because you simply cannot answer the question.
At what point does a human become human? What makes it immoral to murder another human being?
Your goal, to troll for biters, shows your soul's makeup, kd.
Evolution has only provided the neurology that allows us to think ahead, to contemplate our own navels, and to come to the "arrogant" decision that we, alone, have such a wonderful soulful personage. That only we, having "Holy Dominion over the Lesser Beasts", can contemplate our future and our influence on our fellow men. And be possessive of a soul. Rubbish.
There is no "point" at which we became so vastly "better" than Apes. Evolution is a continuum. We are but a reference point in that ongoing process. Apes and chimps do, in fact, express contemplative reasoning, and often show complete contempt for intrusive and arrogant humanoids.
The arrogance of this particular branch in the evolutionary tree (i.e.: us...) is one of our chief failings, and will, undoubtably, lead to our early demise as a species. To thus make way for a newer, better Ape, one can only hope!
My whole point is that we, as human beings, agree that it is immoral and wrong to murder human beings. If we evolved, then evolution must account for that.
I would like to know how. One poster told me it's because we have a "right to life". I'd like to know why they feel that way. What is that based on?
It's relevant. I want to know how evolution accounts for the soul.
This is the question you asked on post #6 which is different than the OP. Quite a few of us have told you we don't believe there even is a soul in the first place so no explanation is required. You always keep switching the questions around in all of your posts if you don't like the answers you get. Yes, evolution does account for the development of ethics and morals with regard to such things as murder. It is not in the best interests of human beings to murder each other. We are a social animal and have a need to interact and cooperate with one another in order to survive as a species. We couldn't even have a society or a culture if murder was acceptable. We have also developed emotions and human feelings that include empathy and care for each other. Evolution is much more than survival of the fittest, it's also about existing in harmony with nature and destructive behavior such as murder undermines all of that. Ok, I think I gave you a pretty good answer so go ahead and change the question again.
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