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The intent in founding the two countries, speaking in religious terms, was diametrically opposed. Even the earliest settlers to the U.S. came here for freedom of religion, because they had been persecuted for their beliefs in England. The founders specifically separated religion from the governance of the country so that no one would comingle religion with politics. Israel, on the other hand, was a refuge for Jews to live and practice their religion since they had been killed in the millions for doing so in WWII, aside from being Jewish alone (i.e., racial reasons). It was, at the time, pretty much the one place on earth where they could exist as Jews in all ways without reprisal. They chose their form of government.
Seems to me there is a similarity in both places in that it was a refuge for those who wanted to practice religion without persecution. US stayed a secular democracy. Is Israel not a Jewish theocracy by choice?
The established policy in the country is for freedom of religion / belief, and no official establishment by the government of any particular religion / belief. All Americans have the right to choose as they wish, including no faith or religion.
As for the most commonly expressed view under these conditions - especially in earlier years of the country - has been the Protestant faith.
Of course we've been moving away from the more limited ways seen when the country was less populated and less diverse. We have persons now from all over the world and nearly every conceivable belief. But those long-lasting earlier signs remain, even if as relics. We can't change the past, but can remember and support the original goal.
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Seems to me there is a similarity in both places in that it was a refuge for those who wanted to practice religion without persecution. US stayed a secular democracy. Is Israel not a Jewish theocracy by choice?
Except you're the one who has been insisting that the founders saw the U.S. as a Christian nation. That doesn't jive with "secular democracy".
Seems to me there is a similarity in both places in that it was a refuge for those who wanted to practice religion without persecution. US stayed a secular democracy. Is Israel not a Jewish theocracy by choice?
No. Modern Israel is not a theocracy.
Israel welcomes people of Jewish background, Christian, and Muslim.
Israel is NOT ruled over by priests.
When America was founded the colonialists were mostly coming from nations that had long been under the under of a Theocracy. They wanted to escape theocratic rule.
Israel welcomes people of Jewish background, Christian, and Muslim.
Israel is NOT ruled over by priests.
When America was founded the colonialists were mostly coming from nations that had long been under the under of a Theocracy. They wanted to escape theocratic rule.
Israel welcomes people of Jewish background, Christian, and Muslim.
Israel is NOT ruled over by priests.
When America was founded the colonialists were mostly coming from nations that had long been under the under of a Theocracy. They wanted to escape theocratic rule.
Yes. And it is interesting to note that in expanding the thread topic from "USA as a Christian nation" they have singled out the single lone one tiny Jewish state in the world. Which of course is NOT a theocracy. While failing to mention at all the 49 countries in the world which are Muslim majority. Including five actual theocracies which are Muslim.
There are six actual theocractic countries in the world. Note that none of them are Jewish. And none of them are Israel. In fact 84% of the theocracies in the world are ISLAMIC
Afghanistan - MUSLIM
Iran - MUSLIM
Mauritania - MUSLIM
Saudi Arabia - MUSLIM
Vatican City - CHRISTIAN
Yemen - MUSLIM
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