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There are many different mindsets, two of the most famous are "turn the other cheek" we could call this New Testament or Jesus and "Eye for an eye" or Torah or Old Testament....
Which philosophy of those specific two are better?
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What philosophy is best? Is it based on situations?
I don't think there's one answer to your question, but as a school teacher and principal for 30 years, I never saw a bully who stopped being a bully because his (or her) victim was nice to them. They took it as weakness, and all the more reason to bully the other student.
And I might add that it seems like some people (not all, of course) are more likely to turn the other cheek when the other person is like them, but more likely to seek retribution when the other person is different than them (take race-based lynchings, for example).
Revenge is not mentioned in the OP, so you are arguing against your straw man.
that is inaccurate and incorrect. The example used in the opening post of "eye for an eye" is Malcom X and specifically and explicitly mentions promoting violence as revenge: "violence against those violent towards him or his community."
that's what revenge is: "1. to avenge (oneself or another) usually by retaliating in kind or degree. 2. : to inflict injury in return."
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Originally Posted by QuakerBaker
There are many different mindsets, two of the most famous are "turn the other cheek" we could call this New Testament or Jesus and "Eye for an eye" or Torah or Old Testament....Which philosophy of those specific two are better?
Here are two pieces of evidence, one for each..."Turn the other cheek" Evidence MLK said always move forward, with love, never bitterness or hatred, and turn the other cheek and don't hit back if someone like Bull Connor or the Alabama State police hit you. He won sympathy for his cause of civil rights, because he himself was faultless at least with how he protested.Malcom X was more eye for an eye, he was willing to promote violence against those violent towards him or his community and he is not seen as effective or beloved.
I agree that QB’s post contains some misunderstandings which should be addressed, but knowing her post history (and even examining the OP in complete isolation), I do not get the sense that she meant any harm or disrespect to anyone.
I agree that QB’s post contains some misunderstandings which should be addressed, but knowing her post history (and even examining the OP in complete isolation), I do not get the sense that she meant any harm or disrespect to anyone.
it is not about any individual or person.
it is a learning opportunity for anyone holding those views and beliefs to examine them and become aware of what they are built on. and what they are promoting.
it is not about any individual or person.
it is a learning opportunity for anyone holding those views and beliefs to examine them and become aware of what they are built on. and what they are promoting.
it is not about any individual or person. it is a learning opportunity for anyone holding those views and beliefs to examine them and become aware of what they are built on. and what they are promoting.
Another good point. We all believe and claim to "know" matters, but often not the Whys and Hows we came to those conclusions. That's just as important as what we stand behind. Sometimes we think we've been engaged through the whole process, when we've actually just been acting as a sponge from others instead.
Both 'turn the other cheek' and 'an eye for an eye' are reactionary responses to when some feels they or someone else has been wronged.
The first one basically means ignore the situation and be a pacifist, and the second one means retaliate.
Neither address the problem.
So I'm going to say neither is best. Instead, get to the heart of how the situation occurred in the first place and teach everyone to find a way to accept each others differences and live with one another.
Otherwise it's just an endless cycle.
Both 'turn the other cheek' and 'an eye for an eye' are reactionary responses to when some feels they or someone else has been wronged. Neither address the problem.
....Instead, get to the heart of how the situation occurred in the first place and teach everyone to find a way to accept each others differences and live with one another. Otherwise it's just an endless cycle.
Instead of robotic reactions, focus on solutions. Anyone can react. Kids react. Animals react. But the mind should be engaged.
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Instead of robotic reactions, focus on solutions. Anyone can react. Kids react. Animals react. But the mind should be engaged.