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I'm open minded to anything that has to do with the afterlife and in my opinion, I believe this is what takes place when when we die.
So our bodies have electricity. When we die, that electricity exits the body. But where does it go? Energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
When we die, that electricity makes home to a developing fetus. The electricity is able to reside in the fetus at around 5.5 to 6 weeks which is when the heart begins to beat. The heart begins to beat because of the deceased persons electricity.
Electricity travels 60-80 percent of the speed of light according to scientists, so it's nearly instantaneous. No matter where on the planet the deceased individual is, it will find a new body to reside in even if that body is on the other side of the planet.
If the individual dies and there is no fetus near the 5.5-6 week mark then that electricity will continue to roam until it finds a fetus that has reached that mark.
Animals also have electricity, but we cannot come back in the body of an animal because the electricity has genetic code and it's incompatible.
However...... It may be entirely possible that we could take the bodies of gorillas and monkeys and vice versa since we are 98 percent identical.
I'm open minded to anything that has to do with the afterlife...
Good to know. From what I have read, understand and believe, the link below explains who and what we are. For instance:
"There is no such thing as reincarnation, and all the theories and speculations of men upon that question, which conclude that a soul once incarnated can again become incarnated, are wrong, for the incarnation of a soul is only one step in its destined progress, from an invisible formless existence to a glorious angel or to a perfected spirit."
OK, so you are, basically, describing a soul, in form of electricity, energy, seeking another foetus.
So, all the Germans will be born Hindu or Chinese or Muslims, considering negative birth rate in Europe? Basically, not enough foetuses.
And what happens if you have major "electricity" release, say - after WW2, some what, 80 000 000 people? All this energy is just circling "somewhere", maintained by "something" ?
And, how this aligns with the official narrative that there is more people born than dying, and at significant rate? Where do their souls come from?
And, where did the original electricity came from?
OK, so you are, basically, describing a soul, in form of electricity, energy, seeking another foetus.
So, all the Germans will be born Hindu or Chinese or Muslims, considering negative birth rate in Europe? Basically, not enough foetuses.
And what happens if you have major "electricity" release, say - after WW2, some what, 80 000 000 people? All this energy is just circling "somewhere", maintained by "something" ?
And, how this aligns with the official narrative that there is more people born than dying, and at significant rate? Where do their souls come from?
And, where did the original electricity came from?
Correct. Electricity is a soul. Why wouldn't electricity be able to roam the planet for awhile? It's not like it has a limited life span once outside the body.
If there are more people born than dying, then you just answered your own question about world war 2.
There are plenty of reincarnation documentaries about children born decades after WW2 where they say they vividly remember being in that war and remember loved ones. There was a documentary about a young boy that even remember one of his friends that he served in that army with and he was able to have a full conversation with them. I believe that the boy was no more than seven years old and the old man was around 80 or 90.
Our bodies have electricity but also various biochemical activity that is also energy exchange, driven ultimately by cell mitochondria.
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When we die, that electricity exits the body. But where does it go? Energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
It's known scientifically in great detail where it "goes".
It is true that energy cannot be created nor destroyed (law of conservation of energy) but what you're forgetting is that the same law ALSO states that it can change both form and organization. It's not obligated, or even able, to hold a particular organization once the framework so to speak is gone. You are not just a bunch of electricity but a very specific configuration of electricity, hormones, RNA, DNA and a boatload of other stuff -- uniquely you in the sense that within all this is contained your memories and beliefs and thoughts and sense of self.
When you die, all of this stops functioning and the energy potentials fade away into the surrounding environment in the same way that fire dissipates into the air. It ceases to be organized and becomes disorganized. It ceases to be concentrated and becomes dispersed. If a human consciousness could be reconstituted in some way then you'd also be able to turn a campfire back into a stack of logs, because the information is "out there" and never destroyed. Yet no one has ever done so.
Remember that information is organized energy. The energy isn't destroyed but the organization is, and the matter disappears just as surely as the information in random access memory vanishes when you switch a computer off.
The matter organized as a log, when burned in a campfire, becomes smoke, ash, soot and heat. There's no way to wind the process backwards and there's no way for the log to ever be "loggy" or even remotely log-like again.
That is why no one keeps a corpse in the closet, in case you want to remind yourself occasionally what Aunt Martha looks like. After awhile she will look like every other human skeleton because the bones are the last to lose their gross organizational characteristics. Eventually, even those will be dust.
The electrical and other energies that resided in that body dissipate much more quickly, since the dance of biochemical interactions that keep it going stops, and within a few minutes any potential to restart them is gone because too much cell death has occurred; the substrate for the energy isn't there anymore.
The law of conservation of matter and energy is in no way violated by all this. The matter and energy that used to be you, down to the last atom, still exists, in the same sense that a tree that dies and falls over and eventually turns into soil still exists down to its every atom ... but not as a tree. Out of that soil, new tree seedlings may well sprout, but they will not be reincarnations of the original tree. They are just new trees in fertile soil; they would become more or less the same new trees whether regardless of what decayed to form the soil.
There is no body / mind duality. We're a package deal. We're embodied consciousnesses.
I'm open minded to anything that has to do with the afterlife and in my opinion, I believe this is what takes place when when we die.
So our bodies have electricity. When we die, that electricity exits the body. But where does it go? Energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
When we die, that electricity makes home to a developing fetus. The electricity is able to reside in the fetus at around 5.5 to 6 weeks which is when the heart begins to beat. The heart begins to beat because of the deceased persons electricity.
Electricity travels 60-80 percent of the speed of light according to scientists, so it's nearly instantaneous. No matter where on the planet the deceased individual is, it will find a new body to reside in even if that body is on the other side of the planet.
If the individual dies and there is no fetus near the 5.5-6 week mark then that electricity will continue to roam until it finds a fetus that has reached that mark.
Animals also have electricity, but we cannot come back in the body of an animal because the electricity has genetic code and it's incompatible.
However...... It may be entirely possible that we could take the bodies of gorillas and monkeys and vice versa since we are 98 percent identical.
Good as anyone else's opinion, interesting, I do tend to lean toward reincarnation in a way.
Our bodies have electricity but also various biochemical activity that is also energy exchange, driven ultimately by cell mitochondria.
It's known scientifically in great detail where it "goes".
It is true that energy cannot be created nor destroyed (law of conservation of energy) but what you're forgetting is that the same law ALSO states that it can change both form and organization. It's not obligated, or even able, to hold a particular organization once the framework so to speak is gone. You are not just a bunch of electricity but a very specific configuration of electricity, hormones, RNA, DNA and a boatload of other stuff -- uniquely you in the sense that within all this is contained your memories and beliefs and thoughts and sense of self.
When you die, all of this stops functioning and the energy potentials fade away into the surrounding environment in the same way that fire dissipates into the air. It ceases to be organized and becomes disorganized. It ceases to be concentrated and becomes dispersed. If a human consciousness could be reconstituted in some way then you'd also be able to turn a campfire back into a stack of logs, because the information is "out there" and never destroyed. Yet no one has ever done so.
Remember that information is organized energy. The energy isn't destroyed but the organization is, and the matter disappears just as surely as the information in random access memory vanishes when you switch a computer off.
The matter organized as a log, when burned in a campfire, becomes smoke, ash, soot and heat. There's no way to wind the process backwards and there's no way for the log to ever be "loggy" or even remotely log-like again.
That is why no one keeps a corpse in the closet, in case you want to remind yourself occasionally what Aunt Martha looks like. After awhile she will look like every other human skeleton because the bones are the last to lose their gross organizational characteristics. Eventually, even those will be dust.
The electrical and other energies that resided in that body dissipate much more quickly, since the dance of biochemical interactions that keep it going stops, and within a few minutes any potential to restart them is gone because too much cell death has occurred; the substrate for the energy isn't there anymore.
The law of conservation of matter and energy is in no way violated by all this. The matter and energy that used to be you, down to the last atom, still exists, in the same sense that a tree that dies and falls over and eventually turns into soil still exists down to its every atom ... but not as a tree. Out of that soil, new tree seedlings may well sprout, but they will not be reincarnations of the original tree. They are just new trees in fertile soil; they would become more or less the same new trees whether regardless of what decayed to form the soil.
There is no body / mind duality. We're a package deal. We're embodied consciousnesses.
That is the prevailing theory, but it is misguided. Unlike the flames from combustibles that destroy the organization of the combustibles. The "flames" of consciousness "organize" into a resonant composite that exists at the quanta level as a BEC (Our Real Self). That "organized composite" is what we are communicating with here in the forum. Like light, it is at the level of quanta (eternal?) and survives our physical demise, NOT the physical atoms of the "consciousness factory" that produced it.
48:2.14 (543.8) Circuit regulators initiate those changes in material energies which render them subject to the control and regulation of their associates. These beings are morontia power generators as well as circuit regulators. Much as a dynamo apparently generates electricity out of the atmosphere, so do these living morontia dynamos seem to transform the everywhere energies of space into those materials which the morontia supervisors weave into the bodies and life activities of the ascending mortals.
Correct. Electricity is a soul. Why wouldn't electricity be able to roam the planet for awhile? It's not like it has a limited life span once outside the body.
because "electricity" needs SOURCE of it. You are referring to the body electricity, I presume, that being the result of chemical/physical processes in LIVING organism. Please do provide a source for "electricity" of that kind after that organism is, say, cremated.
Look, I do not mind your idea, though a bit naïve. Maybe you should come up with a different source for it though? There's free energy, life energy, called Prana. Maybe, something along those lines? There's Ether, banned from modern science? I mean, you could do better, right? As as is, your idea does not stand any critique.
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