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Old 12-01-2023, 10:12 PM
 
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every newborn child is pricked by Satan except two

No child is born but he is pricked by the satan
and he begins to weep because of the pricking of the satan
except the son of Mary and his mother
and that is becasue the blessing of the prayer of the grandmother of Jesus Ḥannah
and she said when she delivered her child
I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast.



(Remember) when the wife of 'Imran said:
"O my Lord! I have vowed to You what (the child that) is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services
(free from all worldly work; to serve Your Place of worship),
so accept this from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing."
Then when she gave birth to her [child Maryam (Mary)],
she said: "O my Lord! I have given birth to a female child,"
- and Allah knew better what she brought forth, -
"And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary),
and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast."

So her Lord (Allah) accepted her with goodly acceptance.
He made her grow in a good manner and put her under the care of Zakariya (Zachariya).
Every time he entered Al-Mihrab to (visit) her, he found her supplied with sustenance.
He said: "O Maryam (Mary)! From where have you got this?"
She said, "This is from Allah." Verily, Allah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit."

At that time Zakariya (Zachariya) invoked his Lord, saying:
"O my Lord! Grant me from You, a good offspring. You are indeed the All-Hearer of invocation."
Then the angels called him, while he was standing in prayer in Al-Mihrab (a praying place or a private room), (saying):
"Allah gives you glad tidings of Yahya (John), confirming a word from Allah lordly, chaste, a prophet of the righteous.

 
Old 12-01-2023, 10:46 PM
 
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every newborn child is pricked by Satan except two

No child is born but he is pricked by the satan
and he begins to weep because of the pricking of the satan
except the son of Mary and his mother
and that is becasue the blessing of the prayer of the grandmother of Jesus Ḥannah
and she said when she delivered her child
I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast.



(Remember) when the wife of 'Imran said:
"O my Lord! I have vowed to You what (the child that) is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services
(free from all worldly work; to serve Your Place of worship),
so accept this from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing."
Then when she gave birth to her [child Maryam (Mary)],
she said: "O my Lord! I have given birth to a female child,"
- and Allah knew better what she brought forth, -
"And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary),
and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast."

So her Lord (Allah) accepted her with goodly acceptance.
He made her grow in a good manner and put her under the care of Zakariya (Zachariya).
Every time he entered Al-Mihrab to (visit) her, he found her supplied with sustenance.
He said: "O Maryam (Mary)! From where have you got this?"
She said, "This is from Allah." Verily, Allah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit."

At that time Zakariya (Zachariya) invoked his Lord, saying:
"O my Lord! Grant me from You, a good offspring. You are indeed the All-Hearer of invocation."
Then the angels called him, while he was standing in prayer in Al-Mihrab (a praying place or a private room), (saying):
"Allah gives you glad tidings of Yahya (John), confirming a word from Allah lordly, chaste, a prophet of the righteous.
Indeed this is one of the biggest common ground between Islam and Christianity.
The miraculous birth of Jesus - and his miracle to raise the dead and breathe life into the clay birds.

When a Christian accepts Islam, he does not leave Jesus behind.
 
Old 12-02-2023, 12:47 PM
 
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Indeed this is one of the biggest common ground between Islam and Christianity.
The miraculous birth of Jesus - and his miracle to raise the dead and breathe life into the clay birds.

When a Christian accepts Islam, he does not leave Jesus behind.
They believe nothing of what the Bible actually says about Jesus. We have no common ground there.

And no, the Bible says nothing of him breathing life into clay birds. And yes, to accept Islam is indeed to leave Jesus, our God, behind.
 
Old 12-02-2023, 01:11 PM
 
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They believe nothing of what the Bible actually says about Jesus. We have no common ground there.

And no, the Bible says nothing of him breathing life into clay birds. And yes, to accept Islam is indeed to leave Jesus, our God, behind.
Yeah - Islam believes in the original and pure form of Christianity- while many Christians, like yourself, believe in the “after the council of nicea” form - they have a choice to do that. I don’t have an issue with it.

The Book of James is a good example of how Jesus’s original and true message in its pure formed looked like.


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Old 12-02-2023, 06:29 PM
 
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Another obvious Muslim thread that belongs in the Islam subforum.
 
Old 12-02-2023, 07:17 PM
 
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They believe nothing of what the Bible actually says about Jesus. We have no common ground there.

And no, the Bible says nothing of him breathing life into clay birds. And yes, to accept Islam is indeed to leave Jesus, our God, behind.
beleiving in Jesus in the correct way is a condition to enter Paradise for every one
not only Jesus but beleiving in all the prophets and messengers of Allah in correct way

The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"If anyone testifies that
None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners,
and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle,
and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him,
and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true,

Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few."

(Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added,
'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes.")
 
Old 12-02-2023, 07:22 PM
 
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Another obvious Muslim thread that belongs in the Islam subforum.
why not Christianity subforum
this thread is talking about Jesus and his mother and his grand mother
also why not in this subforum Religion and Spirituality
Jesus is a Religion subject.
 
Old 12-02-2023, 09:02 PM
 
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And no, the Bible says nothing of him breathing life into clay birds.
also the Bible it says nothing of him spoke to the people in the cradle

When Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother;
how I strengthened thee with the holy Spirit,
so that thou spakest unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity;
and how I taught thee the Scripture and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel;
and how thou didst shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission,
and didst blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission,
and thou didst heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission;
and how thou didst raise the dead by My permission;
and how I restrained the Children of Israel from (harming) thee when thou camest unto them with clear proofs,
and those of them who disbelieved exclaimed:
This is naught else than mere magic;

there were holy books before the Gospel
and there is one more holy book after the Gospel
only one
the Holy Quran
 
Old 12-03-2023, 02:01 AM
 
Location: NSW
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also the Bible it says nothing of him spoke to the people in the cradle

When Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother;
how I strengthened thee with the holy Spirit,
so that thou spakest unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity;
and how I taught thee the Scripture and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel;
and how thou didst shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission,
and didst blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission,
and thou didst heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission;
and how thou didst raise the dead by My permission;
and how I restrained the Children of Israel from (harming) thee when thou camest unto them with clear proofs,
and those of them who disbelieved exclaimed:
This is naught else than mere magic;

there were holy books before the Gospel
and there is one more holy book after the Gospel
only one
the Holy Quran
Fundies of any religion don’t believe a single word out of the “holy books” of any other religion.
Surely you’d be aware of that by now.
You might as well hand them the Book of Mormon, or the book of Hare Krishna, and see how they respond to it.
 
Old 12-03-2023, 02:13 AM
 
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Another obvious Muslim thread that belongs in the Islam subforum.
I see Christian fascism is still alive and well here on the MAIN forum. Since it appears one isn't allowed to discuss Islam here.

Jesus, this place has gone down hill faster than a rock tossed off a cliff.

Not that I hadn't warned everyone about this for literally an entire decade. And here we are.

And thanks, mods, for letting it happen.
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