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Old 08-08-2023, 01:46 PM
 
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No, that wasn't my intent.

Everybody may have a different opinion of truth and think that Jesus has the same exact views as they do; but the fact of the matter is that Jesus is a real person and He is Truth. You either assent to that or you don't.
The Bible and the Church are NOT Jesus!!! By making them the Truth you are replacing Jesus who abides with us as the Comforter to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts" with agape love so we would need no one to teach us.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:47 PM
 
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Don't go down that road. Deal with what is, not what a perverted mind can dream up.
And when the "perverted minds" control the narrative (and the laws), what do we have to fall back on?
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:49 PM
 
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Well, if you get to have your marriage recognized, gay people not having theirs recognized is not "We just want to be equal?"
A union of two people of the same sex is not even remotely equal to a union of two people of the opposite sex. It's infinitely inferior.

Why legally declare something "equal" that is objectively inferior -- and not even just inferior, but actually worthless?
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:50 PM
 
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What I meant is this: Ought the world be conformed to Truth, or ought "truth" conform itself to the world?

What is Truth? Truth is Jesus Christ. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
That's YOUR opinion.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:51 PM
 
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What is Truth? Truth is Jesus Christ. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
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That's YOUR opinion.
No. It's an assertion that you can either assent to or not.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No, that wasn't my intent.

Everybody may have a different opinion of truth and think that Jesus has the same exact views as they do; but the fact of the matter is that Jesus is a real person and He is Truth. You either assent to that or you don't.
Okay, I don't. He was a teacher with some good ideas who couldn't stay out of trouble.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:54 PM
 
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And when the "perverted minds" control the narrative (and the laws), what do we have to fall back on?
You apparently didn't read the article I referenced.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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A union of two people of the same sex is not even remotely equal to a union of two people of the opposite sex. It's infinitely inferior.

Why legally declare something "equal" that is objectively inferior -- and not even just inferior, but actually worthless?
Did it ever occur to you that I might think you and your world view is inferior? Due to you total lack of openmindedness?

The world doesn't belong to you or to christianity.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:57 PM
 
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No. It's an assertion that you can either assent to or not.
Don't play silly word games.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:58 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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No, that wasn't my intent.

Everybody may have a different opinion of truth and think that Jesus has the same exact views as they do; but the fact of the matter is that Jesus is a real person and He is Truth. You either assent to that or you don't.
The implication is that this "Truth" is what you and your church interpret it to mean.

Of course, there are a few thousand other churches that believe THEIR interpretation is the "right" one.

You have no monopoly on "Truth."
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