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You worship Jesus, too? I had no idea! The God of Christians is named Jesus.
exactly.
i was thinking the very same.
it is a demonstration of ignorance to convey the view as earlier post did (post #2) that Jesus (God of Christians) is the same God as in the religions Islam and Judaism.
because that is simply inaccurate. great that you pointed that out. Thank you.
In Crstnty, Jesus is God. In Islam, Issa (Jesus) is a prophet. In Judaism, well, Jesus is simply absent.
Judaism has existed for 3,800 years (that is 1,800 years before Jesus was even born.) The Torah was given to the Jews 3,300 years ago (that is 1,300 years before Jesus was born). Hence, no Jesus in Judaism.
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exactly.
i was thinking the very same.
it is a demonstration of ignorance to convey the view as earlier post did (post #2) that Jesus (God of Christians) is the same God as in the religions Islam and Judaism.
because that is simply inaccurate. great that you pointed that out. Thank you.
In Crstnty, Jesus is God. In Islam, Issa (Jesus) is a prophet. In Judaism, well, Jesus is simply absent.
Judaism has existed for 3,800 years (that is 1,800 years before Jesus was even born.) The Torah was given to the Jews 3,300 years ago (that is 1,300 years before Jesus was born). Hence, no Jesus in Judaism.
As I have observed Atheists have all the answers. If they don't they make them up and attack those made up faks. No end to fun and games.
Also, just like the Aztecs, the indigenous people of America and Africa, Daoists, usw, not forcing their beliefs on others, the Jews are not the ones going round saying men must get circumcised and we should all stop eating bacon.
And how did Hindus force their beliefs on you? There is no conversion in Hinduism.
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One atheist made ignorant assertions, that does not mean they made stuff up (unlike one Hindu I could mention).
If you can pin one person's actions or interpretations on a whole community, and insist they should be condemned, whatever that means, sounds Biblical, then one atheist's blabbering also can represent the general atheist mindset, especially when it is not countered. That mindset is throw everything at the poster, whatever sticks sticks. That only discredits all atheists, they cannot be taken seriously.
Not in my experience. Not promote, but certainly do discuss. I don’t find it offensive, what is there to be offended about? At a wedding where the bride was jewish all the traditions were described, including stomping on the wine glass. My Jewish friends certainly promote Jewish professionals - lawyers, specialists, chiropractors.
I said nothing in my post about anyone being offended. I have worked for/with Satmar Chasidic Jews who also explained to me the rules they lived by and foods for their holidays.
But that is not what I meant by my statement. Your last sentence is especially a bizarre response to what I said. Promoting Jewish businesses is not promoting Judaism.
Jews will explain things about their religion when asked; in fact, we are fortunate to have a rabbi who is a regular poster on this forum who answers serious and thoughtful questions about the religion.
But no Jew ever comes here and says, "You should be Jewish because..." or "Judaism is the correct religion for everyone" or "Jewish thought is the truth because..."
Ironically another attack, criticism and ridicule of atheists. But then we are the ones who used to burn people at the stake, and stone people on religious grounds. Oh, wait ...
Love it. The OP is quite miserable and is no respecter of who she goes after. There is a special place in that black heart just for atheists. It's not a very subtle hatred either, pretty obvious with this thread.
exactly.
i was thinking the very same.
it is a demonstration of ignorance to convey the view as earlier post did (post #2) that Jesus (God of Christians) is the same God as in the religions Islam and Judaism.
because that is simply inaccurate. great that you pointed that out. Thank you.
In Crstnty, Jesus is God. In Islam, Issa (Jesus) is a prophet. In Judaism, well, Jesus is simply absent.
Judaism has existed for 3,800 years (that is 1,800 years before Jesus was even born.) The Torah was given to the Jews 3,300 years ago (that is 1,300 years before Jesus was born). Hence, no Jesus in Judaism.
One must laugh at your amazingly ignorant post.
Except post 2 never made that claim. My post was talking about Yahweh. Not all Christians believe Jesus is the god of the Christians. But ALL Christians believe the Jewish god Yahweh is also their god.
Did you really not know that (making you the ignorant one) or did you deliberately mix two posts by two different posters to make a straw man to attack (which is dishonest)?
I said nothing in my post about anyone being offended. I have worked for/with Satmar Chasidic Jews who also explained to me the rules they lived by and foods for their holidays.
But that is not what I meant by my statement. Your last sentence is especially a bizarre response to what I said. Promoting Jewish businesses is not promoting Judaism.
Jews will explain things about their religion when asked; in fact, we are fortunate to have a rabbi who is a regular poster on this forum who answers serious and thoughtful questions about the religion.
But no Jew ever comes here and says, "You should be Jewish because..." or "Judaism is the correct religion for everyone" or "Jewish thought is the truth because..."
That is what I meant by what I said.
Ok I get it.
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. But no Jew ever comes here and says, "You should be Jewish because..." or "Judaism is the correct religion for everyone" or "Jewish thought is the truth because..."
No Hindu does that either. This Hindu talks about Hinduism and the philosophy, Vedanta, because this place has no forum for Hinduism. So people post questions about various aspects of Hinduism or incorrect assumptions a about it. There is a genuine interest in it, many follow the principles of Advaita. So this Hindu, and others like me, responds and discussion ensues.
I have not seen any poster or I saying you should be a Hindu because… or Hinduism is truth. The religion itself says none of that and instead asserts all paths lead to Divinity in a thousand different ways. I have said that many times. There IS no conversion to Hinduism because Hindus do not feel a need to promote it if all paths lead to the same place. In fact the Gita says better to follow your religion imperfectly than to adopt someone elses path.
I am positive you are not suggesting Hinduism should not be discussed at all because it offends Atheists. But it amounts to that because all that you mention about Jews and Judaism applies to Hinduism as well. The only difference is Jews keep to their own forum and hardly ever post here. Which is a pity because I would Ike to see a discussion of Judaism in a free and open space. But I understand their reluctance. This is not a free and open space.
The first part, possibly true. The last part may be true for some, but not all atheists.
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So this whole atheism gig is dishonest if it only picks and chooses targets that are easy.
No, we could still be honest and selective, so you are using the non sequitur fallacy. But we are not selective, we do not believe in ANY gods.
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Originally Posted by cb2008
Even total ignorance of facts, or systems of belief, does not stop them from making foolish arguments as long as they can rant.
Ironic projection.
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