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Old 06-13-2023, 08:50 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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https://youtu.be/gqA-ZRpl1jQ

Sam Harris. It's long so don't click on it if Harris isn't your thing. I thought this explains it well.
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Old 06-13-2023, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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https://youtu.be/gqA-ZRpl1jQ

Sam Harris. It's long so don't click on it if Harris isn't your thing. I thought this explains it well.



Thanks. I love Sam Harris. It's very long though but I'll try to listen to this at some point.
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Old 06-13-2023, 11:53 PM
 
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Another take on consciousness. Yeah, I like long-form interviews & talks and I like to get different takes and look for the overlaps. https://youtu.be/gqA-ZRpl1jQ

Here's a bookmark at a point where Sam talks about emptiness and relates Buddhism to Advaita Vedanta. Pretty much the exact same take as that of Swami Sarvapriyananda's. https://youtu.be/gqA-ZRpl1jQ?t=2610

That is that the Buddhist concept of emptiness of self is the same as the Advaita concept of Self. One emphasizes the negative (Neti Neti - Not this, not that) while Advaita also takes that position as a first step but then transitions to the positive Self (That Thou Art).

Emptiness misunderstood results in nothing (no-self vs. not-self) and Self misunderstood results in something (Self). Advaita would phrase it as Self is not nothing, nor is it something. Self is No Thing.

This is a really good conversation and from my perspective Sam is hitting all the right notes. And yes, I'm very much in agreement with an atheist.
Self misunderstood results in identification with Ego, not Self. Shunya, which Buddhism calls it as well and means zero, could be more powerful than what it seems, and harder to explain. Zero is a mystical concept.
Yes, Sarvapriyananda mentions Sam Haris with affection.
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