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Old 05-09-2023, 06:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Freak80
''No two people have the same experience of “divinity.” So whose experience is the “right” one?''


Well, gee, all are 'right', as you put it.
But, if I'm gonna sit at the feet of the one telling me about their exp...it will be the one
that can hardly talk because of the awe and being drowned in almost unbearable Love.
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Old 05-09-2023, 06:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Freak80
''No two people have the same experience of “divinity.” So whose experience is the “right” one?''


Well, gee, all are 'right', as you put it.
But, if I'm gonna sit at the feet of the one telling me about their exp...it will be the one
that can hardly talk because of the awe and being drowned in almost unbearable Love.
Not sure I understand what you mean here…
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Some theists claim to have direct experiences with “God.” What’s going on here? Is it ultimately caused by chemicals in the brain? Or is it literally God himself? Is there any way to determine the truth?
It is delusional.

Claims that people "experienced" a god-thing are 100% subjective.

Consider the alternative, that they are objective.

You are forced to accept one of these two conditions:

1) there is more than one god; or
2) there is only one god but that god deviously intends people to see it different in order to foment conflict.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:24 PM
 
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I was very young when I asked Jesus into my life, and He has been with me 67 years blessing and intervening for me all along.
I know His-voice in my life and I depend on His direction in both big and small issues.
God answers prayer and teaches me how and what to pray and whom to pray for often with specific direction.
First law, Love God with all one’s heart soul and might.
How much you invest in this relationship, God multiples in return.
Jesus said, Blessed are they that do hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled.
Righteous from Gods perspective, not man’s.
Jesus said, I only do what my Father tells me.
That is our example.
It’s not academics.
It’s a relationship.
Matthew 7;21,22,23,
This didn't answer the OP's question.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:25 PM
 
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You aren't wrong about everything, Mike!
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Once again, you and I find agreement
All right, this agreement and getting along nonsense had better stop, or infractions all around!
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:31 PM
 
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It is delusional.

Claims that people "experienced" a god-thing are 100% subjective.

Consider the alternative, that they are objective.

You are forced to accept one of these two conditions:

1) there is more than one god; or
2) there is only one god but that god deviously intends people to see it different in order to foment conflict.
False dichotomy! There are as many reasons as there are different people. All the "differences" are in the interpretations of the experiences.
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Old 05-09-2023, 09:46 PM
 
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False dichotomy! There are as many reasons as there are different people. All the "differences" are in the interpretations of the experiences.
Your contempt of logic is shocking!
How could it be a false dichotomy???
It is either one god or many gods.
What is the third choice???
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Old 05-09-2023, 10:03 PM
 
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Your contempt of logic is shocking!
How could it be a false dichotomy???
It is either one god or many gods.
What is the third choice???
you are one person with many names. (father, brother, uncle, boss, accountant, golfer, coach, cousin, employee). how many of you are there, one of you or many of you?


there is one sun in the sky but many sunbeams. sunbeams shining in Africa and Iceland and Ireland and New Zealand. Sunbeams seen on the mountain, in the forest, on the lake, and on the rug in your living room.
Which is it? one sun or many sunbeams.
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Old 05-09-2023, 10:16 PM
 
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Is “God” ultimately a subjective experience, or an objective reality?

He's certainly not an objective reality. He's not even a reality.

So he must be a subjective experience--appearing only in the minds and hearts and imaginations of those who believe in him.
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Old 05-09-2023, 10:21 PM
 
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you are one person with many names. (father, brother, uncle, boss, accountant, golfer, coach, cousin, employee). how many of you are there, one of you or many of you?


there is one sun in the sky but many sunbeams. sunbeams shining in Africa and Iceland and Ireland and New Zealand. Sunbeams seen on the mountain, in the forest, on the lake, and on the rug in your living room.
Which is it? one sun or many sunbeams.
Wow!

Do words "person" and "name" describe the same things?
Do words "sun" and "sunbeam" describe the same thing?
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