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Old 03-21-2023, 06:07 AM
 
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The master of forgiveness

"O Allah! You are my Lord.
There is no God except You.
You created me and I am Your slave.
To the best of my ability, I will abide by my covenant and pledge to You.
I seek Your protection from the evil of my own creation.
I acknowledge Your favors to me and I admit my sins.
So please forgive me for no one can forgive sins except You."

If a believer says this with complete faith and sincerity then all the sins between him and Allah will be removed

that apply for any sin between Allah and the person only
and does not include the sins or crime against others
as attacking them or as taking their rights by any how
in this case forgiveness and repent is not enough
but the rights of the people that were taking must be returned to them if they do not forgive .

 
Old 03-21-2023, 06:59 AM
 
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Can you offer that same prayer to Yahweh?
 
Old 03-21-2023, 09:01 AM
 
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Can you offer that same prayer to Yahweh?
I think any one who does not know that the main name of the creator is Allah in any language
he can use the word my creator

the idea is pray to the god, the creator

I don't believe that the English word Yahweh is one of the names of the god
i think it was translated wrong from the original language or diverted

and not only the name of the god was translated wrong but many prophets names

the English word Jesus is not the correct translation or pronunciation for Christ,
the correct translation or pronunciation is Isa




The name of the god is Allah and he is the only god

Allah has many beautiful names

but his name in all the languages is Allah


here are the names of Allah (Name/Transliteration Translation)
ALLÂH Allâh
AR-RAHMÂN The Most Compassionate,The BeneficentThe Beneficent
AR-RAHÎM The Merciful
AL-MALIK The King
AL-QUDDÛS The Most Holy
AS-SALÂM The All-Peaceful, The Bestower of peace
AL-MU'MIN The Granter of security
AL-MUHAYMIN The Protector
AL-'AZÎZ The Mighty
AL-JABBÂR The Compeller
AL-MUTAKABBIR Supreme in Greatness,The Majestic
AL-KHÂLIQ The Creator
AL-BÂRI' The Maker
AL-MUSAWWIR The Bestower of form,The Shaper
AL-GAFFÂR The Forgiver
AL-QAHHÂR The Subduer
AL-WAHHÂB The Bestower
AR-RAZZÂQ The Provider
AL-FATTÂH The Opener, The Judge
AL-'ALÎM The All-Knowing
AL-QÂBID The Withholder
AL-BÂSIT The Expander
AL-KHÂFID The Abaser
AR-RÂFI' The Exalter
AL-MU'IZZ The Bestower of honour
AL-MUDHILL The Humiliator
AS-SAMÎ' The All-Hearing
AL-BASÎR The All-Seeing
AL-HAKAM The Judge
AL-'ADL The Just, The Equitable
AL-LATÎF The Gentle, The Knower of subtleties
AL-KHABÎR The All-Aware
AL-HALÎM The Forbearing
AL-'AZÎM The Incomparably Great
AL-GAFÛR The Forgiving
ASH-SHAKÛR The Appreciative
AL-'ALIYY The Most High
AL-KABÎR The Most Great
AL-HAFÎZ The Preserver
AL-MUGHÎTH The Sustainer
AL-HASÎB The Reckoner
AL-JALÎL The Majestic, The Revered, The Sublime
AL-KARÎM The Generous
AR-RAQÎB The Watchful
AL-MUJÎB The Responsive
AL-WÂSI' The All-Encompassing, The All-Embracing
AL-HAKÎM The Wise
AL-WADÛD The Loving One
AL-MAJÎD The Most Glorious
AL-BÂ'ITH The Resurrector
ASH-SHAHÎD The Witness
AL-HAQQ The Truth
AL-WAKÎL The Ultimate Trustee, The Disposer of Affairs
AL-QAWIYY The Most Strong
AL-MATÎN The Firm One, The Authoritative
AL-WALIYY The Protector
AL-HAMÎD The All-Praised, The Praiseworthy
AL-MUHSÎ The Reckoner
AL-MUBDI' The Originator
AL-MU'ÎD The Restorer to life
AL-MUHYÎ The Giver of life
AL-MUMÎT The Causer of death
AL-HAYY The Ever-Living
AL-QAYYÛM The Self-Existing by Whom all subsist
AL-WÂJID The Self-Sufficient, The All-Perceiving
AL-MÂJID The Glorified
AL-WÂHID The One
AS-SAMAD The Eternally Besought
AL-QÂDIR The Omnipotent, The Able
AL-MUQTADIR The Powerful
AL-MUQADDIM The Expediter
AL- MU'AKHKHIR The Delayer
AL-AWWAL The First
AL-ÂKHIR The Last
AZ-ZÂHIR The Manifest
AL-BÂTIN The Hidden
AL-WÂLÎ The Governor, The Protector
AL-MUTA'ÂLÎ The Most Exalted
AL-BARR The Benign, The Source of All-Goodness
AT-TAWWÂB The Granter and Accepter of repentence
AL- MUNTAQIM The Lord of Retribution, The Avenger
AL-'AFUWW The Pardoner
AR-RA'ÛF The Most Kind, The Clement
MÂLIK-UL-MULK Owner of the Kingdom
DHUL JALÂL WAL IKRÂM Possessor of Majesty and Honour
AL-MUQSIT The Just, The Equitable
AL-JÂME' The Gatherer
AL-GHANIYY The All-Sufficient
AL-MUGHNÎ The Enricher
AL-MÂNI' The Preventer of harm
AD-DÂRR The Afflicter
AN-NÂFI' The Benefiter
AN-NÛR The Light
AL-HÂDÎ The Guide
AL-BADÎ' The Originator
AL-BÂQÎ The Everlasting
AL-WÂRITH The Ultimate Inheritor
AR-RASHÎD The Guide
AS-SABÛR The Patient One

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Last edited by truth_teller; 03-21-2023 at 09:30 AM..
 
Old 03-21-2023, 11:21 AM
 
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I think any one who does not know that the main name of the creator is Allah in any language
he can use the word my creator
You didn't answer the question. Would you be comfortable making that prayer to Yahweh?
 
Old 03-21-2023, 04:06 PM
 
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Can you offer that same prayer to Yahweh?
Truth Teller is praying to Allah and they are saying that is what they are doing. Allah is Allah in his language of prayer.
You can, if you wish, repeat that prayer to Yahweh or to Christ or whoever you wish.
 
Old 03-22-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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Truth Teller is praying to Allah and they are saying that is what they are doing. Allah is Allah in his language of prayer.
You can, if you wish, repeat that prayer to Yahweh or to Christ or whoever you wish.
I get that. And it's interesting he didn't affirm it. I don't believe Allah exists, he doesn't believe Yahweh exists. We don't share the same God.
 
Old 03-22-2023, 02:54 PM
 
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I get that. And it's interesting he didn't affirm it. I don't believe Allah exists, he doesn't believe Yahweh exists. We don't share the same God.

They are both names for the God worshiped by Abraham, whether you like to admit it or not.
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Old 03-22-2023, 03:40 PM
 
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I get that. And it's interesting he didn't affirm it. I don't believe Allah exists, he doesn't believe Yahweh exists. We don't share the same God.

Here is what TruthTeller said:


Quote:
I think any one who does not know that the main name of the creator is Allah in any language
he can use the word my creator

the idea is pray to the god, the creator

I don't believe that the English word Yahweh is one of the names of the god
i think it was translated wrong from the original language or diverted

and not only the name of the god was translated wrong but many prophets names

the English word Jesus is not the correct translation or pronunciation for Christ,
the correct translation or pronunciation is Isa

He did affirm it, in his own way.

The bolded. Are these not good responses?
Indian Christians pray to Yesu or Isa as well, and call God Kartar - creator in Sanskrit which is the base for all Indian languages.
It is not what you call him that is important, that you pray is. I believe that is what OP was trying to say.
As a Hindu I have no difficulty to believe Allah is how Muslims call the Divinity that I pray to as well. Hindus also call God by many names, thousands of names. Each of the gods.
 
Old 03-22-2023, 04:02 PM
 
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That's cool if Allah is down with forgiveness. I can roll with that. No reason they can't have that kind of stuff too. Better than some of the stuff we see here from a certain hate-filled atheist.

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Old 03-22-2023, 04:44 PM
 
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I get that. And it's interesting he didn't affirm it. I don't believe Allah exists, he doesn't believe Yahweh exists. We don't share the same God.
To believe this, you would need to believe there is more than one God and that WE determine who God is by what WE believe, which is absurd!! God is God and what WE believe about Him does NOT determine who He is!! That is the main and major problem with religions that are entirely born of human vanity and hubris. We are all free to believe what we wish about God but that does NOT determine ANYTHING about who God actually IS! Any and all pretense that we have the "secret decoder ring" to the knowledge of God is pure arrogance. As Paul said (paraphrased), if we knew God we would never have scourged and crucified Jesus!!! It seems nothing has changed since Paul was around. As Jesus (who IS God Himself to me) said, "we know not what we do"!
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