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Old 03-24-2023, 02:28 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I forgive JimmieJ for saying God doesn't love me. lol

 
Old 03-24-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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I didn't dictate anything and I don't know why you suggested I did. I would suggest that you could be nice and recognize that others have beliefs that don't necessarily agree with yours, but are just as valid.
I'm not the one saying people can't have an opinion, or that my opinion is better than anyone else's. That's all you. You expect others to play nicely, maybe you should show the same courtesy. You are the one saying the one thing we can be sure of is that we can't be sure of anything.

It's ok to disagree. It doesn't mean we hate anyone. Why not just chill out and get along?
 
Old 03-24-2023, 04:34 PM
 
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The Bible explicitly states he IS God. John 1:1. He claimed to be God in Revelation 1. Not to mention throughout Scripture.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was god.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.


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You don't recognize Jesus as God, so would you say we do not have the same God?
my god is the one who created you and that means we have the same one
but our knowledge and believes and understanding about him is not the same
one of us is wrong
and the wrong one is in big danger
 
Old 03-24-2023, 04:46 PM
 
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John literally wrote the above statement in John 1:1. He doesn't call him "a god". In fact, Koine Greek doesn't have the indefinite article. It could not have said "a god". He said that Jesus is God. Notice how it sounds very similar to Genesis 1? He's saying that Jesus is the Creator God.
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my god is the one who created you and that means we have the same one
but our knowledge and believes and understanding about him is not the same
one of us is wrong
and the wrong one is in big danger
The Bible refers to Jesus as God. Jesus is the Creator.

Yes. The one who is wrong is indeed in big danger. And respectfully, I don't believe it to be me. Again, I say this with the utmost respect, but please rethink this.
 
Old 03-25-2023, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Germany
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was god.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbV6taajNvM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KupNjpVDlc




my god is the one who created you and that means we have the same one
but our knowledge and believes and understanding about him is not the same
one of us is wrong
and the wrong one is in big danger
Lol, a Muslim taking an ambiguous passage and pretending the alternative they prefer is the correct one while ignoring (or not understanding) that what the passage literally says is an argument against Islam beliefs.
 
Old 03-25-2023, 12:43 AM
 
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John literally wrote the above statement in John 1:1. He doesn't call him "a god". In fact, Koine Greek doesn't have the indefinite article. It could not have said "a god". He said that Jesus is God.
While not having an indefinite article, Koine Greek has ways of saying or implying the indefinite clause.
 
Old 03-25-2023, 06:43 AM
 
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Yes. The one who is wrong is indeed in big danger. And respectfully, I don't believe it to be me. Again, I say this with the utmost respect, but please rethink this.
I am 100% right

They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary."
But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.
" Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode.
There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity:
for there is no god except One Allah.
If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy),
verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness?
For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him.
His mother was a woman of truth.
They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them;
yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
Say: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things."
Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper),
trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.
Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary:
because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.



The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of Jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3NRNFQ2B8
 
Old 03-25-2023, 08:30 AM
 
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Jesus himself mentioned the name of the god as Allah

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