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Old 12-18-2022, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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My husband is a huge Michigan football team fan. Michigan's team is for whatever reason very religious. They constantly have players thanking God after every win, including their head coach. They also have optional team prayers.

The team has done a lot of charity.

It annoys my husband, but I don't mind it. I see it as a way of giving thanks to the universe for their blessings. He thinks it is political in some form.

I suppose it isn't any different than actors and musicians thanking God or even making political statements.





I've done some research and found this very moving video, which is supposedly one of the first political statements at a movie awards. You should definitely see it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUacU0I4yU
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Old 12-18-2022, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well, you probably don't watch much boxing.
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Old 12-18-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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God is not political.
prayer has nothing to do with politics
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Old 12-18-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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God is not political.
prayer has nothing to do with politics
Prayer is human instinct, an act of surrender to the Universe. What is political is in our mind, not in the Universe. How we accept defeat is also in our mind. Prayer is always a good thing.
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Old 12-18-2022, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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What you have are a bunch of 20 year olds "thanking God" because they think that by thanking God... then God might see fit that they get to the NFL.

But this is a pretty good example of Christian "privilege" in that if you had a player who was an avowed atheist or even an outspoken Muslim... that player wouldn't be popular with the fans and any acts to pronounce their faith (or lack of it) would be met with all kinds of protestations.

At Oklahoma fan our punter is a guy that has a You Tube channel that is basically devoted to Christian evangelism. And most of the fans think it's great. He has a big following. All kinds of people praising him for his videos and his willingness to share his faith.
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Old 12-18-2022, 09:32 AM
 
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What you have are a bunch of 20 year olds "thanking God" because they think that by thanking God... then God might see fit that they get to the NFL. But this is a pretty good example of Christian "privilege" in that if you had a player who was an avowed atheist or even an outspoken Muslim... that player wouldn't be popular with the fans and any acts to pronounce their faith (or lack of it) would be met with all kinds of protestations. At Oklahoma fan our punter is a guy that has a You Tube channel that is basically devoted to Christian evangelism. And most of the fans think it's great. He has a big following. All kinds of people praising him for his videos and his willingness to share his faith.
no, that is not accurate at all. there have been outspoken Muslim athletes who remained popular with fans, such as Muhammed Ali and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. And outspoken Jewish athletes who remained popular with fans, such as Sandy Koufax and Mark Spitz.
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Old 12-18-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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Well, you probably don't watch much boxing.
No, I don't. But a quick search showed some boxer named Tyson Fury and every other word out of his mouth is Jesus. He is like me, except I am like five foot two or three and toothpick arms and I never hit others. Other than that, we are twinsies!



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What you have are a bunch of 20 year olds "thanking God" because they think that by thanking God... then God might see fit that they get to the NFL.

But this is a pretty good example of Christian "privilege" in that if you had a player who was an avowed atheist or even an outspoken Muslim... that player wouldn't be popular with the fans and any acts to pronounce their faith (or lack of it) would be met with all kinds of protestations.

At Oklahoma fan our punter is a guy that has a You Tube channel that is basically devoted to Christian evangelism. And most of the fans think it's great. He has a big following. All kinds of people praising him for his videos and his willingness to share his faith.
Michigan has a Muslim player Giovanni El-Hadi that participates in the thanking of God. I think it would be more of a problem with atheists, but the team prayer is optional.
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Old 12-18-2022, 12:14 PM
 
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No, I don't. But a quick search showed some boxer named Tyson Fury and every other word out of his mouth is Jesus. He is like me, except I am like five foot two or three and toothpick arms and I never hit others. Other than that, we are twinsies!
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Almost every Latino boxer you will see, just before a match starts, will kneel and do the sign of the cross. Now some people are naïve enough to say that they are praying to not injure the other boxer (which, of course, could be accomplished by not being a boxer). Trust me. Most of them are praying to win at physically beating (literally) their opponent.
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Old 12-18-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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Almost every Latino boxer you will see, just before a match starts, will kneel and do the sign of the cross. Now some people are naïve enough to say that they are praying to not injure the other boxer (which, of course, could be accomplished by not being a boxer). Trust me. Most of them are praying to win at physically beating (literally) their opponent.
And you know this...how?

Plus, why can't they be praying for both?
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Old 12-18-2022, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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And you know this...how?

Plus, why can't they be praying for both?
Come on Mink. You don't think they're praying they win and pick up the winner's purse...which averages $67,948, let alone purses that can run as high as $300,000,000. And what does winning involve? Preferably knocking a guy out.
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