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Old 11-15-2022, 01:33 PM
 
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Who gave you the authority to declare what is and what is not of God?
I figure you can grab your Crusaders sword and put me to Death if that is what you deem necessary.

I'll pass on answering your Inquisition.

 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Do you have a problem with Jews?
What an interesting question. What made you ask that?

It's unfair to lump all Jews into one category. I evaluate individuals, not groups.

Many Jews believe in Christ. Unfortunately most do not, and of course that is problematic. That said, not that it's any of your business but no I do not have a personal problem with any Jew.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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I figure you can grab your Crusaders sword and put me to Death if that is what you deem necessary.

I'll pass on answering your Inquisition.
Not my place. You're the one claiming to speak for God here.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:37 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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What an interesting question. What made you ask that?

It's unfair to lump all Jews into one category. I evaluate individuals, not groups.

Many Jews believe in Christ. Unfortunately most do not, and that is problematic.
That scripture you quoted seemed like you were attempting to justify. My perception is that you are using the Bible to dehumanize another.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not at all! I'm an apologist (generally speaking) for both the Crusades and the Inquisition.

You, however, mentioned "murder".

I found your condemnation ironic and a clear example of psychological projection given that Jesus was speaking to your ancestors (both spiritually and physically) in John 8:39-59.
You think that somehow I am projecting onto the Crusaders the label of "murder"? You are claiming that somehow the behavior of the Inquisitors was not murder and only receiving that label because I consider their behavior murder but others don't?

That does speak volumes. As to irony, no, it isn't ironic and if you are trying to prove a case by citing a text that holds no value to me, your claim fails on both the semantic and textual level.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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You think that somehow I am projecting onto the Crusaders the label of "murder"? You are claiming that somehow the behavior of the Inquisitors was not murder and only receiving that label because I consider their behavior murder but others don't?

That does speak volumes. As to irony, no, it isn't ironic and if you are trying to prove a case by citing a text that holds no value to me, your claim fails on both the semantic and textual level.
Regardless of the value you place on the text or lack thereof, if you simply read it I think you would understand my meaning completely.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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The crusades and the inquisition were not of God.
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That scripture you quoted seemed like you were attempting to justify. My perception is that you are using the Bible to dehumanize another.
Yeah, my post turned that scripture back on him.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:44 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Regardless of the value you place on the text or lack thereof, if you simply read it I think you would understand my meaning completely.
I'll stick with Harry POtetr and Hamlet. If I'm going to read fiction, they are better options.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 01:59 PM
 
Location: NSW
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The catholic church (at least in Germany) was complicit in war crimes with the Nazi's. Do a search. I'm first generation of a German family born in the US and a catholic school survivor. The day I discovered this was the last day I set foot in a catholic church. Never Again.
What’s a “Catholic school survivor”?
Never heard of such a term.
I went through such a school system, as did my parents, siblings and my own children.
The Catholic Church were not complicit in war crimes, they were pretty much powerless to stop the Nazi regime.
The Nazis themselves were not affiliated with any Christian denomination or religion.
 
Old 11-15-2022, 02:12 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I'll stick with Harry POtetr and Hamlet. If I'm going to read fiction, they are better options.
I would like to know what his intention was quoting that scripture.
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