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Old 10-17-2022, 09:38 AM
 
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I don't see religion or lack of religion doing away with war. War is more about resources.
And has always been

 
Old 10-17-2022, 11:11 AM
 
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I am not sure what your point is and what makes you LOL.
My point is your opinion is based on a biased source from people who think the universe is only 6000 years old.

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Atheists and others believe secularism, westernization and globalization will end the conflicts and wars which they believe are due to religion. THAT is not what is happening. Prosperity, westernization and globalization are causing religion to flourish and grow, as well as conflicts.
Do you have a credible source for this rather than that of people who think the universe is only 6000 years old?
 
Old 10-17-2022, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Germany
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The whole idea that War is solely because of religion is silly.
But it is a good straw man to attack atheists with.
 
Old 10-17-2022, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Lol, “religion problem” in quotes. From your own article, this 'resurgence of religion has also played a part in an increasing number of violent conflicts around the world', and 'what has spawned the modern revival of religion, and the spreading rejection of secular society?'

You even admit there is a “religion problem” when you mention 'the demand of Christian Evangelists to make the US a Christian State'.

And the icing on the lol cake, you are quoting conservapedia, a site set up and supported by by dishonest religious cranks who are happy to misrepresent what is really happening.

All you are doing is laughing at straw man atheism while women in Iran are being sexually assaulted by the morality police.
I'm glad you posted this. I felt exactly the same way when reading her post, and thought I must be missing something because...the bolded...while true, why would she be pointing that out.
 
Old 10-17-2022, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Lol, “religion problem” in quotes. From your own article, this 'resurgence of religion has also played a part in an increasing number of violent conflicts around the world', and 'what has spawned the modern revival of religion, and the spreading rejection of secular society?'

You even admit there is a “religion problem” when you mention 'the demand of Christian Evangelists to make the US a Christian State'.

And the icing on the lol cake, you are quoting conservapedia, a site set up and supported by by dishonest religious cranks who are happy to misrepresent what is really happening.

All you are doing is laughing at straw man atheism while women in Iran are being sexually assaulted by the morality police.
A delusional and indefensible position requires desperate attempts to "argue" the case.
 
Old 10-17-2022, 12:26 PM
 
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My point is your opinion is based on a biased source from people who think the universe is only 6000 years old.



Do you have a credible source for this rather than that of people who think the universe is only 6000 years old?
The link provided has several credible scholarly sources you can click on. That is how internet works. Why dont you try doing that instead of sneering?
 
Old 10-17-2022, 12:52 PM
 
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But it is a good straw man to attack atheists with.
No strawman when the claims are so easy to find. A simple search right here on this forum will reveal several posters claiming the same. Everything from world wars to the Partition of India has been blamed on religion. You are being disingenuous.
Here is something to refresh your mind about Atheist conviction on the cause of wars, even though you are trying to derail the topic.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...n_6156878.html
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. It is the most common comeback from atheists to people of faith: religion is the main cause of wars. Without faith, many say, there would have been no 9/11 attacks, no Israeli-Palestinian conflict, no Troubles in Northern Ireland, no violent disputes over words in holy texts - even no Islamic State.
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Richard Dawkins, Britain’s best-known atheist, has argued that religion has been the main cause of violence and war throughout history. He wrote in his 2013 autobiography that “religion is the principal label, and the most dangerous one, by which a ‘they’, as opposed to a 'we' can be identified."
Dawkins has said that if religion were somehow abolished, there would be "a much better chance of no more war".
There would also be "less hatred, because a lot of the hatred in the world is sectarian hatred," according to Dawkins. "For example, in Northern Ireland, India and Pakistan,” he told the website belief.net.
 
Old 10-17-2022, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No strawman when the claims are so easy to find. A simple search right here on this forum will reveal several posters claiming the same. Everything from world wars to the Partition of India has been blamed on religion. You are being disingenuous.
Here is something to refresh your mind about Atheist conviction on the cause of wars, even though you are trying to derail the topic.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...n_6156878.html
I suppose you think that the partition of India was not based on religion. That's laughable.
 
Old 10-17-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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I suppose you think that the partition of India was not based on religion. That's laughable.
There you go. No strawman.
 
Old 10-17-2022, 01:24 PM
 
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The partition of India was definitely based on religion, as was the creation of Bangladesh.
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