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Old 09-28-2022, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I didn't say YOU were. But we Christians are living rent-free in the heads of a few individuals. It's an obsession.
And Christians are obsessed with non Christians. At least you are supposed to be obsessed with saving our souls.
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Old 09-28-2022, 06:39 PM
 
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To the moderators: This is in response to this post addressing the danger to Muslims due to "Christian Privilage". The hate and harm caused to muslims by Atheists has been far worse .
That’s just delusional.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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This forum historically has leaned HARD toward being against Christianity. To suggest otherwise is laughable.
That is an opinion about prevailing opinions, not evidence of some sort of hard bias against Christianity. Christianity gets far more discussion in R&S than other religions because Christianity is the religion most posters know. A subset of those posters have some critiques of Christianity and others don't buy its truth claims. Others do not hold entirely orthodox Christian beliefs. These people have no less right to state their views and argue their case than more mainstream Christian believers.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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That is an opinion about prevailing opinions, not evidence of some sort of hard bias against Christianity. Christianity gets far more discussion in R&S than other religions because Christianity is the religion most posters know. A subset of those posters have some critiques of Christianity and others don't buy its truth claims. Others do not hold entirely orthodox Christian beliefs. These people have no less right to state their views and argue their case than more mainstream Christian believers.
BF's post is a very good example of how uncomfortable it is to be in the minority...whether it's a minority in the nation or a minority on the forum. The whole point of this thread. And he doesn't see it.

One of my favorite hymns growing up (more for the music than the lyrics) was "Are ye able said the Master, to be crucified with me. 'Yea', the sturdy dreamers answered, 'To the death we'll follow thee..."...unless of course things get a little tough on the forum.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:44 PM
 
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That is an opinion about prevailing opinions, not evidence of some sort of hard bias against Christianity. Christianity gets far more discussion in R&S than other religions because Christianity is the religion most posters know. A subset of those posters have some critiques of Christianity and others don't buy its truth claims. Others do not hold entirely orthodox Christian beliefs. These people have no less right to state their views and argue their case than more mainstream Christian believers.
One of the premise of this topic that the Christian “privilege” has harmed Muslims is false. Whatever harm done between the two has always been. It is the focused attack by atheists on Muslims who became the new fodder for them that caused the greatest harm and violence against Muslims and their families. In that respect, Atheists became the mouthpiece for the Conservative Right, most of whom are Christian and White. The Conservative Right was also mostly ill informed, but the Athiests fed the fire with their loud “intellectual” rhetoric and ruined lives by making Muslim and terrorism synonymous. They had little to say about the lies told by the Govt to go destroy a country and kill its people, because humanity does not concern Atheists, only their non-belief.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:47 PM
 
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BF's post is a very good example of how uncomfortable it is to be in the minority...whether it's a minority in the nation or a minority on the forum. The whole point of this thread. And he doesn't see it.

One of my favorite hymns growing up (more for the music than the lyrics) was "Are ye able said the Master, to be crucified with me. 'Yea', the sturdy dreamers answered, 'To the death we'll follow thee..."...unless of course things get a little tough on the forum.
One of the advantages of culture is that it provides a comfortable set of conventions and assumptions that you can relax into. It beats me why someone who doesn't want to be in a multicultural environment like this willingly comes here to be uncomfortable and then (1) expresses surprise that anyone disagrees with them and then (2) complains about it.

If this isn't a nice place for you to be, no one is holding a gun to your head. You can log off and stick to your church socials or whatever your in-group normally does without having to think about it. But if you come here you are presumably looking to expand your mind, not have your existing limitations validated and applauded at every turn.

The irony about being in the minority when it comes to fundamentalists is that it is almost definitionally central to their identity. "Narrow is the path, and few there be that find it." They are supposed to be proud to be members of the tattered remnant of the righteous. To be considered fools for Christ, etc. So what is the problem here then?

I just finished an exchange in the past day or so on here with a guy who identifies as someone who is misunderstood and rejected by believer and unbeliever alike (he goes around telling his fellow Christians how wrong they are on matters of doctrine and then wonders why he isn't liked and people argue with him). Despite that this is a self-inflicted personal problem, it doesn't stop him from complaining about it. I guess it is just part of the schtick: be a booger and then complain when people call you one.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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One of the premise of this topic that the Christian “privilege” has harmed Muslims is false. Whatever harm done between the two has always been. It is the focused attack by atheists on Muslims who became the new fodder for them that caused the greatest harm and violence against Muslims and their families. In that respect, Atheists became the mouthpiece for the Conservative Right, most of whom are Christian and White. The Conservative Right was also mostly ill informed, but the Athiests fed the fire with their loud “intellectual” rhetoric and ruined lives by making Muslim and terrorism synonymous. They had little to say about the lies told by the Govt to go destroy a country and kill its people, because humanity does not concern Atheists, only their non-belief.
My opening post does not mention Muslims.
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Old 09-28-2022, 08:19 PM
 
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One of the premise of this topic that the Christian “privilege” has harmed Muslims is false. Whatever harm done between the two has always been. It is the focused attack by atheists on Muslims who became the new fodder for them that caused the greatest harm and violence against Muslims and their families. In that respect, Atheists became the mouthpiece for the Conservative Right, most of whom are Christian and White. The Conservative Right was also mostly ill informed, but the Athiests fed the fire with their loud “intellectual” rhetoric and ruined lives by making Muslim and terrorism synonymous. They had little to say about the lies told by the Govt to go destroy a country and kill its people, because humanity does not concern Atheists, only their non-belief.
Do you have evidence to support this attack in atthests? So if right wing extremetists shoot up mosques in Quebec City and New Zealand is rhe fault of a left wing atheist? Ricjard Dawkins says that Muslims would be better off with Islam is hate and violence but Ann Colter saying that the American army should convert Irawis to Christainity is ignored. A Republucan congresswoman says that Muslims have no place in American goverment is another comment that can either be dismissed or blamed in atheists.

Daying atheists do not care about humanity is tje same as saying Muslims are terrirists, Jews murder Christian babies or Mexicans are rapists. Its an attemot to dehumanize atheists and dehumanizing leads to all the things you falsely claim t oppose.
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Old 09-28-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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My opening post does not mention Muslims.
But you did post the other article that Christian “privilage” harms Muslims. Not nearly as badly as Atheists have and continue to do so. You brought that issue into your own thread.
Atheist’s idea of criticizing Islam is by stereotyping Muslims by how they look, which is racial profiling, and also mixing them up with Sikhs. The ignorance and hate is deep and harmful to humanity.

https://thehumanist.com/commentary/a...igotry-problem
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Old 09-28-2022, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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But you did post the other article that Christian “privilage” harms Muslims. Not nearly as badly as Atheists have and continue to do so. You brought that issue into your own thread.
Atheist’s idea of criticizing Islam is by stereotyping Muslims by how they look, which is racial profiling, and also mixing them up with Sikhs. The ignorance and hate is deep and harmful to humanity.

https://thehumanist.com/commentary/a...igotry-problem
I Googled "Christian Privilege", and have been posting articles that I thought were overall interesting and to the topic, pretty much in the order they came up on Google.

Fake news, cb, and personally I suspect you're working hard to get the thread closed.
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