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To be fair, Daniel is an apocalyptic work and those beasts are meant to represent something metaphorically, not be real critters. It is a literary device, not the telling of actual events.
Yes, it records certain actual events as prophesies after the event, and the metaphorical creatures are past civilizations. It was an apocalyptic work to explain why a previous apocalyptic work (Jeremiah) failed, only to fail itself.
Several parts were meant to be taken as historical, and Daniel is one of those. It is political propaganda for the Jewish party that actually won.
Actually, all the scriptures were mistakenly interpreted carnally and historically because they simply were not ready to understand them spiritually. That makes them conveniently wrong so you can pretend that supports their ignorance and your atheism.
Actually, all the scriptures were mistakenly interpreted carnally and historically because they simply were not ready to understand them spiritually. That makes them conveniently wrong so you can pretend that supports their ignorance and your atheism.
So, basically what you're telling us is that a huge percentage of the christian population is basing their faith on a complete misinterpretation of the bible.
Actually, all the scriptures were mistakenly interpreted carnally and historically because they simply were not ready to understand them spiritually. That makes them conveniently wrong so you can pretend that supports their ignorance and your atheism.
No, you are pretending all the scriptures were mistakenly interpreted carnally and historically because they simply were not ready to understand them spiritually.
They got the history very, very wrong, and the dates tell us when it was written, during the war of the Maccabees. This is the evidence I have posted earlier, and evidence is something your assertion and opinion does not have.
And how on earth does Daniel being a political document support atheism? All the Abrahamic religions could be false, that would not mean atheism is correct. Daniel being a political document plays no role in whether atheism is true or not, and one would expect a PhD would understand this.
You have it backward. The Bible was NEVER intended to be historical or scientific.
That is not the view of any of the authors of any of the texts and they would vehemently denounce you for even suggesting it.
The Hebrew texts are a purely historical work that also contains the laws set forth by the Hebrew god-thing (and certain books that claim to be prophetic), although many incidents and the deeds of many characters have been exaggerated or altered over time to conform to the prevail political and social realities.
For example, initially, you could build a temple or altar anywhere you wanted, but centuries later the prevailing political view was that you could only have one temple and one altar (and both could only be located in Jerusalem).
There's nothing spiritual about that. It is purely historical/political.
No, you are pretending all the scriptures were mistakenly interpreted carnally and historically because they simply were not ready to understand them spiritually.
They got the history very, very wrong, and the dates tell us when it was written, during the war of the Maccabees. This is the evidence I have posted earlier, and evidence is something your assertion and opinion does not have.
And how on earth does Daniel being a political document support atheism? All the Abrahamic religions could be false, that would not mean atheism is correct. Daniel being a political document plays no role in whether atheism is true or not, and one would expect a PhD would understand this.
The tenaciousness that you and virtually everyone here automatically employ carnal or worldly interpretations to the writings that were "spiritually inspired" is evidence that it would have been even more true back then! They THOUGHT they knew what the inspirations were about and applied them to everyday life, but they actually had no clue. Even today, spiritual understanding seems closeted within a very few advanced mystics and esotericists spread throughout the world. It is an enigma.
That is not the view of any of the authors of any of the texts and they would vehemently denounce you for even suggesting it.
The Hebrew texts are a purely historical work that also contains the laws set forth by the Hebrew god-thing (and certain books that claim to be prophetic), although many incidents and the deeds of many characters have been exaggerated or altered over time to conform to the prevail political and social realities.
For example, initially, you could build a temple or altar anywhere you wanted, but centuries later the prevailing political view was that you could only have one temple and one altar (and both could only be located in Jerusalem).
There's nothing spiritual about that. It is purely historical/political.
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
If this malarkey doesn't cause one to question deeply their "beliefs", then they will swallow any bucket of lies in their cowardly quest for eternal life
Quite the contrary, the language proves God because it's a real language.
How should I describe you as the tent you are?
You are a soul inside tent, this temporary body and so we are taught the we really are the Tabernacle, and the evolution of that tabernacle literally teaches evolution because it begins in the skins of animals and evolves 3 more times.
So if you are the Tabernacle, then I am going to set the people about you in four camps.
In the East there shall be the lion of Judah, and in the North, there shall be the man of Rueben, in the South there shall be the camp of Dan, the great eagle, and in the west, an oxen.
These are the 4 spirits surrounding the temple in the people of the temple.
The people of the west enter west and exit east, the north to the south as flowing pipes through the 4 ventricles of your heart, and so let's put this in practical terms.
Everytime you interact with anyone, you are going to choose from the 4 spirits flowing through your heart, you will choose to be an Eagle who swoops down and rips with the talons.
You can interact as a man, a sacrificial oxen, an eagle or a lion and those are the 4 beasts in the hearts of many but not all, they can evolve as it is shown evolving.
Because you have 3 sections of ribs in floating ribs, false ribs, and true ribs, the priesthood was exactly designed from your rib cage.
There are 3 sections of priests which are also divided by two, being 12 on one side and 12 on the other as there are two seasons in which the 3 divisions officiate within the temple.
So Jesus comes taking two people to make them one people as if you took two people, cut them in half to take a half from each to then make one man.
So there are the 12 tribes of Israel given 12 ribs as 12 priests, and those 12 were made one man with the 12 disciples, and when one of those ribs was taken at his death, it just linked back to Adam, and Jesus becoming the new Adam.. what rib was taken? Judas.
What you may see as crazy, it is really genius, it's just hidden.
Thing is, this hidden language runs through 40 authors through 1500 years with all of them speaking in a hidden language that was unknown to themselves in most cases, and yet the language states constant.
Of course this doesnt explain Daniel's, but this is the basic known design from which Daniel began.
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The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
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