What is God? (Abraham, Christianity, Satan, believer)
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G-d never leaves ANYONE out in the cold. He saves such as of are a broken heart and a contrite (repentant) spirit. He meets us when we're down in the valley, not when we're on the mountaintops. Peace
G-d never leaves ANYONE out in the cold. He saves such as of are a broken heart and a contrite (repentant) spirit. He meets us when we're down in the valley, not when we're on the mountaintops. Peace
I posted not long ago about that ...
I really did try this approach in all sincerity.
And, as I said in my post ... NOTHING happened. Not even the slightest tingle.
Obviously I didn't expect a puff of smoke and a genie-god to appear ready to grant my every wish.
BUT ...
Mere days after I had this little "chat" with God, three major things occurred in my life, ALL of them lousy (which is why I wasn't on this forum from the 1st week of July until just a few days ago).
I don't expect instant miracles -- but I don't expect to be kicked when I'm down, either, and that's what happened.
Which made me realize that I was right all along with atheism. There's simply no one up there who cares.
And, as I said in my post ... NOTHING happened. Not even the slightest tingle.
Obviously I didn't expect a puff of smoke and a genie-god to appear ready to grant my every wish.
BUT ...
Mere days after I had this little "chat" with God, three major things occurred in my life, ALL of them lousy (which is why I wasn't on this forum from the 1st week of July until just a few days ago).
I don't expect instant miracles -- but I don't expect to be kicked when I'm down, either, and that's what happened.
Which made me realize that I was right all along with atheism. There's simply no one up there who cares.
Period.
Yes there is. He heard your cry. Believe it or not, the 3 lousy things that happened verified it, sort of in "reverse", because the wheat and the tares are always raised up together. It always gets darkest right before the dawn. Hang in there, morning's coming. Peace
Yes there is. He heard your cry. Believe it or not, the 3 lousy things that happened verified it, sort of in "reverse", because the wheat and the tares are always raised up together. It always gets darkest right before the dawn. Hang in there, morning's coming. Peace
Great news for the babies dying of starvation. So if good things happen it's proof God loves you but if bad things happen it's proof he loves you?
I truly do understand people believing in a God, even the Judea Christian God but have a terrible time understanding how they can force everything that happens or doesn't happen and everything that's in the universe as a proof for that God.
Great news for the babies dying of starvation. So if good things happen it's proof God loves you but if bad things happen it's proof he loves you?
I truly do understand people believing in a God, even the Judea Christian God but have a terrible time understanding how they can force everything that happens or doesn't happen and everything that's in the universe as a proof for that God.
Why blame G-d for that? Is He supposed to come down and take care of our offspring for us, or is that our responsibility?
It's easy, He created it, He created the rules of operation. You know Him, you learn the rules, because He teaches you. Peace
Yes, the Holy Spirit of Agape love.
Yes, Every time we evoke agape love within our consciousness we add to our "spiritual body" making it more mature and more ready for our rebirth as Spirit upon our death.
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Originally Posted by Rbbi1
Which is really odd that Jesus took the time and went to all the trouble to come here in shoe leather, just to tell us we must be born again, when heck, He could have just waited to tell us that once we were spirit, ie. dead, when it REALLY mattered. Peace
Why is it odd? God's consciousness (Agape love) had to reside in a HUMAN consciousness so ALL human consciousness would be connected to God. That means Jesus HAD to be born as a human and achieve perfect resonance (Identity) with God's consciousness. All those before Jesus were born again as Spirit upon their deaths but were separate from God and would have remained so if not for Jesus. His death and rebirth as Spirit ensured that each of us would have the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts."
Why blame G-d for that? Is He supposed to come down and take care of our offspring for us, or is that our responsibility?
It's easy, He created it, He created the rules of operation. You know Him, you learn the rules, because He teaches you. Peace
Yes drought comes blame the parents. War hits a region blame the parents. Something good happens give God credit. So the rules are do not get born in a very poor country. If you are born in a very rich country you will be blessed.
That is the part I don't get, all good things are credited to your God but you place zero responsibility for anything that is not goodupon him. I guess with that mindset it is easy to accept any terrible thing in the Bible aND to justify it. Makes no sense.
Yes drought comes blame the parents. War hits a region blame the parents. Something good happens give God credit. So the rules are do not get born in a very poor country. If you are born in a very rich country you will be blessed.
That is the part I don't get, all good things are credited to your God but you place zero responsibility for anything that is not goodupon him. I guess with that mindset it is easy to accept any terrible thing in the Bible aND to justify it. Makes no sense.
Does G-d cause drought, or has man messed with the ecosystem so much through greed and avarice, that weather patterns all over the world have been changed? Does G-d cause wars, or has man with his greed and avarice for petro dollars and gold?
Sin is of man, not of G-d, and sin is what has caused all the problems from the beginning of time. Period. Peace
Does G-d cause drought, or has man messed with the ecosystem so much through greed and avarice, that weather patterns all over the world have been changed? Does G-d cause wars, or has man with his greed and avarice for petro dollars and gold?
Sin is of man, not of G-d, and sin is what has caused all the problems from the beginning of time. Period. Peace
Well droughts are a part of the global system. Droughts might be made worse or more often by man's messing it up. But most of our input is from the rich countries so blaming the parents that live in the poor countries seems to me very unjust. Before petroleum wars there were religious wars.
But keep it up. I love seeing how the very devout twist everything so that God is absolutely blameless but also gets all the credit. In some religions God is not perfect but in your's he is and therefore everything possible must be twisted and forced to demos rate that he is perfect and man is pretty much a piece of garbage.
So sin is the cause of all droughts, floods, hurricanes, volcanoes and earthquakes? And God helps people find their car keys? I thought God loved everyone so what lesson is he teaching the greedy and the polluters by having children somewhere else starving to death?
Well droughts are a part of the global system. Droughts might be made worse or more often by man's messing it up. But most of our input is from the rich countries so blaming the parents that live in the poor countries seems to me very unjust. Before petroleum wars there were religious wars.
But keep it up. I love seeing how the very devout twist everything so that God is absolutely blameless but also gets all the credit. In some religions God is not perfect but in your's he is and therefore everything possible must be twisted and forced to demos rate that he is perfect and man is pretty much a piece of garbage.
So sin is the cause of all droughts, floods, hurricanes, volcanoes and earthquakes? And God helps people find their car keys? I thought God loved everyone so what lesson is he teaching the greedy and the polluters by having children somewhere else starving to death?
Did I say G-d causes any of it? He does not. Some of it man causes though sin, some of it is simply a natural part of the creation that He set up, reacting naturally. Why unbelievers want to blame G-d is a mystery to me. If you don't believe in Him, why shake your fist at something that doesn't exist? Need a hobby, or what? Peace
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