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Do you know the guy whom was raised from dead by Jees prayer to God Father? the guy ended up dead again. But this time was not his sickness that had done it; the jews probably hecked him to death. So don't rise from the bed, if that was not necessary. Speaking of resting, good nite now.
I get what you're saying. But do you believe that an omnipotent and omniscient God has the right to save whom he wants to? Why must he do things according to how you would prefer he do it?
No ... I do NOT believe God has the right to save whom he wants to.
Not unless Christians are willing to remove "fair" as one of his attributes.
Oh yeah ... and Christians also have to freely admit that God wanted very much for Hitler to keep on living given the number of times Hitler has freakishly avoided death and assassinations.
No ... I do NOT believe God has the right to save whom he wants to.
Not unless Christians are willing to remove "fair" as one of his attributes.
Oh yeah ... and Christians also have to freely admit that God wanted very much for Hitler to keep on living given the number of times Hitler has freakishly avoided death and assassinations.
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No ... I do NOT believe God has the right to save whom he wants to.
Not unless Christians are willing to remove "fair" as one of his attributes.
I've never said that God will act according to what I consider fair.
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Oh yeah ... and Christians also have to freely admit that God wanted very much for Hitler to keep on living given the number of times Hitler has freakishly avoided death and assassinations.
I've never said that God will act according to what I consider fair.
Christians claim that God is fair ... but picking some people and not others to be healed is decidedly unfair.
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I guess you've never heard about all the times Hitler "miraculously" escaped death? If even ONE of the things that happened to Hitler happened to a Christian of today, that Christian most likely would be dancing around telling the whole world of how God interceded on their behalf to save them from certain death.
The point, of course, ought to be obvious: How is it fair that a good and decent person is killed in a car accident when Hitler survived over two dozen serious assassination attempts - not to mention the other weird flukes that kept him alive during WWI. Even Hitler gave credit to a higher power for all of his escapes and each successive victory over death reinforced his belief that "Providence" had big plans for him.
Hi. I'm a pediatric critical care Dr and I've struggled with this concept quite a bit. So I prayed to God to see the truth in all and the answer is in our hearts. You are all right. You know cause you feel it in your hearts. Our Lord God the creator would never do something like this. But through the years there have been many gods that have claimed to be the one true god(little g). Just as humans have an ego so do they. They had mixed with us. Created their own lines. It's not only in the Christian bible but other holy texts. That led to inborn errors in our genes. Horrible mutations that lead to suffering. God did not create that. Even us as humans want the power to control DNA. So we are trying to clone things. We want to create and have the power of the creator. We create vaccines to protect us from illness because we feel we can control our future. Did you know part of the MMR vaccine is grown in human embryos(fertilized egg...life) then we harvest the live virus and inject it into our children. We've created viruses and bacteria that never existed before. Because our own human ego to want to have the power to control. Did you know we have created an enzyme to cut into DNA called luciferase? You can't make this up. Evil is true and real but we never talk about it. Evil is good at deception and distraction. believing in God means also accepting the devil is here on earth and is real. feeding us with partial truths. Feeding our egos. Turning us away from God with deception and distraction. You are all right. Our God would never do this. So then. ..who would? Lucifer. God gave us free will. Evil prays on that fact. Over the years history has been hidden and destroyed. How can we tell whats right? The truth and knowing right from from is in our hearts. the devil makes us think God did this to us but it was not God the creator. Its unconscionable evil that has led us to where we are now. Look it up. Unconscionable evil is well known to people of power. Its in our law books. It's against the law. Logically that means it truly does exist. If the evil can get at adom and eve we too are at risk of feeling it's wrath.
Hi. I'm a pediatric critical care Dr and I've struggled with this concept quite a bit. So I prayed to God to see the truth in all and the answer is in our hearts. You are all right. You know cause you feel it in your hearts. Our Lord God the creator would never do something like this. But through the years there have been many gods that have claimed to be the one true god(little g). Just as humans have an ego so do they. They had mixed with us. Created their own lines. It's not only in the Christian bible but other holy texts. That led to inborn errors in our genes. Horrible mutations that lead to suffering. God did not create that. Even us as humans want the power to control DNA. So we are trying to clone things. We want to create and have the power of the creator. We create vaccines to protect us from illness because we feel we can control our future. Did you know part of the MMR vaccine is grown in human embryos(fertilized egg...life) then we harvest the live virus and inject it into our children. We've created viruses and bacteria that never existed before. Because our own human ego to want to have the power to control. Did you know we have created an enzyme to cut into DNA called luciferase? You can't make this up. Evil is true and real but we never talk about it. Evil is good at deception and distraction. believing in God means also accepting the devil is here on earth and is real. feeding us with partial truths. Feeding our egos. Turning us away from God with deception and distraction. You are all right. Our God would never do this. So then. ..who would? Lucifer. God gave us free will. Evil prays on that fact. Over the years history has been hidden and destroyed. How can we tell whats right? The truth and knowing right from from is in our hearts. the devil makes us think God did this to us but it was not God the creator. Its unconscionable evil that has led us to where we are now. Look it up. Unconscionable evil is well known to people of power. Its in our law books. It's against the law. Logically that means it truly does exist. If the evil can get at adom and eve we too are at risk of feeling it's wrath.
Please let me know where you practice, so that I can have my friends and family avoid your hospital. I'd prefer they be treated by someone who believes in science.
Is it me or is it especially astounding to hear from those who recovered from serious illnesses or accidents repeatedly say they were fortunate because God was responsible somehow? How about all the men, women and children who die horrible painful deaths under the same watch? Are we supposed to say they had it coming, or they're part of a bigger plan? Who exactly would sign up for that? Sorry but to hear it consistently which is something I hear a lot of lately is difficult to pass up commenting on. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense if one rationalizes a bit...
Exactly.
But you are not going to get any good answers as to why god seems to protect some people and not others from christians here on this forum. trust me i have tried, and been lambasted for it.
The following is what you will hear, in all likelihood......
"God truly loves us and works in mysterious ways, so we cannot ever know his master plan. but rest assured that if you truly pray to him and love him good things will come your way, even though it may not seem like it at the time. it is just that sometimes god knows better than you what you need, so it only seems like he is not listening. sometimes the best thing for you is when god says no to you."
LOL--sound familiar?
Of course, the above theological rhetoric i posted answers nothing, and it devoid of all logic.
But that is sort of the whole point, right? When you are defending a dynamic with zero visible logic, it is very difficult to use any in your apologetics.
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