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I get what you're saying. But do you believe that an omnipotent and omniscient God has the right to save whom he wants to? Why must he do things according to how you would prefer he do it?
He most certainly could intervene or not if those were his only 2 (key) attributes. But that would necessitate him to be indifferent or apathetic (or possibly moody), which eliminates all-loving or all-caring as a 3rd key attribute.
I get what you're saying. But do you believe that an omnipotent and omniscient God has the right to save whom he wants to? Why must he do things according to how you would prefer he do it?
Vizio has his point. The OT offers two points:
"envy not the evildoers, for they know not their posterities are for swords."
"none considered the righteous were taken away for the evils to come."
Is it me or is it especially astounding to hear from those who recovered from serious illnesses or accidents repeatedly say they were fortunate because God was responsible somehow? How about all the men, women and children who die horrible painful deaths under the same watch? Are we supposed to say they had it coming, or they're part of a bigger plan? Who exactly would sign up for that? Sorry but to hear it consistently which is something I hear a lot of lately is difficult to pass up commenting on. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense if one rationalizes a bit...
Yeah. It's especially because they never blame him for making them ill or causing an accident in the first place.
Always the credit, never the blame. It's pretty good gig.
Yeah. It's especially because they never blame him for making them ill or causing an accident in the first place.
Always the credit, never the blame. It's pretty good gig.
You still have not the idea of the owner of everything means.
The owner of an house decorates however he sees fit. Or he could order a house himself or through a henry, right?
You still have not the idea of the owner of everything means.
The owner of an house decorates however he sees fit. Or he could order a house himself or through a henry, right?
Ya, whats wrong with you people. If you own a pet you can do what ever you want.
You could sit back and watch it die a painful death from some disease or take it to a vet to be cured, But its your pet so its ok to let it suffer.
He most certainly could intervene or not if those were his only 2 (key) attributes. But that would necessitate him to be indifferent or apathetic (or possibly moody), which eliminates all-loving or all-caring as a 3rd key attribute.
The Bible doesn't call him "all-loving". Why would you think that he loves everyone? The Bible specifically states that he hates some.
The Bible doesn't call him "all-loving". Why would you think that he loves everyone? The Bible specifically states that he hates some.
Well, there are many verses inferring that god loves (figuratively you the reader), or offers redemption for all (thereby potentially loving all), and we hear this meme perpetuated by both pastors and followers throughout Christian denominations as proof of his "goodness". I'd say there are a multitude of justifiable reasons for holding this viewpoint of the bible-god, because the followers of the bible-god proclaim it. But if your position is that the bible-god is not an all-loving entity, then you'll get no argument from me.
But that only leads to yet another reason for skepticism of such an entity's agenda...and make it clear that one should not accept servitude to any being, creator not. And thats only if one can even apply enough credibility to its existence in the first place (which is no small order).
Ya, whats wrong with you people. If you own a pet you can do what ever you want.
You could sit back and watch it die a painful death from some disease or take it to a vet to be cured, But its your pet so its ok to let it suffer.
Okay, I get your point. The Bible reveals some ideas of the house master, and a lot of them speak stricy and severities. And his servants interceds and dress the vineyards that were supposed be consumed.
But when his beggoton son came "he immediately take out his hand and says why do you doubt?"
the people asked "show us the father, for it suffies us."
the son replied "you see me sees the father." "I do what my father doth."
I will sort these out for you. Back in the long ago, there were the people that were so worse that you don't see today. Some values back in those days are like kicking your pets were okay. And all children to kick the sick dying pet. Then you hang the cat body on a tree so it is the chinese tradition.
But there revealed the son in the NT telling us his father treats him differently. The son was deemed mad at that time and died the horrible death. But today the world bending towards his son's likeness, leaving the Chinese still kicking their pets around.
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