I'm baaaaack! Calvary Chapel's super popular, pastor Bob Coy, disgraced and defrocked (worship, quote)
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That could very easily be because Christianity doesn't make sense and a lot of what is in the Bible is just plain false. I've been a Christian for almost all of my life but lately I've recognized that there is much in the Bible that is false and/or completely illogical...snip...
Millions of ex-Christians, including me, began their walk away from the faith because of the above.
I have a particular hate on for the Calvary Chapel.
One of it's mega churches is 1/2 mile from my condo in Florida. Sunday mornings are a zoo trying to go past there, which is the only route I can take. Police block a PUBLIC roadway so the faithful can get out of the parking lot, and rush to their brunches.
They have three services each Sunday, so one can't avoid the crap that goes on in the morning, and there are multiple times during the week they have traffic jams because of some program or another.
As far as I am concerned, if you need to go to your church, fine, but don't inconvenience the rest of us who could not give a flying fig about whatever sky fairy you think will magically make you live for ever.
Yeah, it makes me angry every time I think about it. What RIGHT do church goers have over the general or secular public to block traffic for THEIR convenience?
grrrrrrrrrr........
What right? Are you serious, that is a real question? The same right that all the baseball and football fans have when THEY clog up traffic in my neighborhood. I don't like or go to sport venues but I don't make demands on the city to try to stop them. What a weak argument.
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What right? Are you serious, that is a real question? The same right that all the baseball and football fans have when THEY clog up traffic in my neighborhood. I don't like or go to sport venues but I don't make demands on the city to try to stop them. What a weak argument.
Football game = 68,000 people
Megachurch = 2,000 people
Just because some Christians fail in their walk, false teachers exist, etc doesn't mean the God revealed in the Bible is not a reality. One thing we can all be certain of is that God's Justice will be just.
Just because some Christians fail in their walk, false teachers exist, etc doesn't mean the God revealed in the Bible is not a reality. One thing we can all be certain of is that God's Justice will be just.
God isn't going to mete out some kind of post-death "justice." You are.
And I understand from your perspective how "some Christians fail in their walk."
But from mine, many/most of those ex-Christians wake up to the truth and forge a new, more rewarding path.
Just because some Christians fail in their walk, false teachers exist, etc doesn't mean the God revealed in the Bible is not a reality. One thing we can all be certain of is that God's Justice will be just.
And how, may I ask, can you (or "we") be certain of that? (Understand that "certain" means "I could convince anyone of it, logically, regardless of his/her religious affiliation or lack thereof.)
If you answer "because it's in the Bible", tell me: with all of the translations of the Bible that are out there, all of the theologians who can't seem to agree on what the Bible says, and all of the people of other religious leanings who would say that the Bible is false/heretical/nonsense, how can you be certain, again using my definition, that the Bible is true?
Pastor Ted anyone??? Ted Haggard of New Life in CO Springs has one of the biggest oops, but he has a new church now. It's not as big. New Lifes congregation size about halved after the scandal and hasn't recovered.
(Never mind the fact that the Bible commands that adulterers be put to death - just like homosexuals - so adulterers should be just as marginalized from society as gay people are. So yeah, the hypocrisy is pretty sickening.)
Hi Shirina,
That was under the law, the law given to Moses to give only to Israel concerning adulterers. That law is not for the world to follow nor the church of the nations.
Hi Shirina,
That was under the law, the law given to Moses to give only to Israel concerning adulterers. That law is not for the world to follow nor the church of the nations.
It's really not that big a deal though. If I were one of these adulterous TV preachers I would just bring up King Solomon. Shows that even the old school Hebrews kind of let that law slide if you were important or rich enough.
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The same right that all the baseball and football fans have when THEY clog up traffic in my neighborhood. I don't like or go to sport venues but I don't make demands on the city to try to stop them. What a weak argument.
