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Well preacher as a Christian you're teaching Christianity and if you teach Christianity using the old testament of your sacred book as an example then your also teaching that Christianity teaches the killing of children. Perfect example is just what you are talking about above. The only way that you're not going to teach that Christianity tells a parent to take the life of its child is to not teach anything in the old testament.
Can you show me a command where Christians are told to kill anyone?
I don't like that you keep picking on Vizio. ...and callin him "preacher" all the time is dehumanizing.
You should be aware that the numerous Christians, in their views, have a habit of excusing their believes in uncountable ways... For example, the New Testament throws the old testament away (BUT LEAVES IT IN THE BIBLE AS CONTEXT?) Jesus says which commands are important... about 4+.
The commands in the New Testament are subsections (over more like "oversections") of "the good ones" in the Old Testament...
Love God, Love Neighbors as Self, etc, mean... perhaps... follow the covenant's 613 laws, or at least the 10 commandments without worrying about the other 603... depending on which "Holy Spirit" you use to read meaning into the ink and wood. Although more meaning can be read and inscribed in less dictational graven images
LuminousTruth, Vizio is a preacher.. So I'am only calling him that because he is and if you don't believe me ask him..
I don't like that you keep picking on Vizio. ...and callin him "preacher" all the time is dehumanizing.
You should be aware that the numerous Christians, in their views, have a habit of excusing their believes in uncountable ways... For example, the New Testament throws the old testament away (BUT LEAVES IT IN THE BIBLE AS CONTEXT?) Jesus says which commands are important... about 4+.
The commands in the New Testament are subsections (over more like "oversections") of "the good ones" in the Old Testament...
Love God, Love Neighbors as Self, etc, mean... perhaps... follow the covenant's 613 laws, or at least the 10 commandments without worrying about the other 603... depending on which "Holy Spirit" you use to read meaning into the ink and wood. Although more meaning can be read and inscribed in less dictational graven images
He can feel free to try to pin me to the wall on this. In fact, I hope he does.
No offense, taken. I am honestly asking for you to please show me a command in the Bible that says a Christian should kill anyone.
Will if you're teaching from the old testament from your sacred book, lets start with these;
Deuteronomy 17.
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the lord thy god giveth thee, man or woman, that have wrought wickedness in the sight of the lord thy god, in transgressing his covenant;17:3 and have gone and served other gods, and worship them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the hosts of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 and it be told thee, and thou has heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 then shall thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, until they die
Here's a few dealing with children;
Leviticus 20;9 for every one that curses his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be a pawn him.
Judges;11:30-40 Jephthah killed his younger daughter (his only daughter) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
Psalms;137:8-9. Talks about dashing little children against stones.
2Kings 6:28-29. Interesting enough this one talks about cannibalism.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21. Talks about a disobedient son and how everybody should stone him to death.
Judges 19:24-29. Talks about how a father took his daughter and let men have their way with her and then he cut her up into 12 pieces and scattered them over the land.
Exodus 12:29. God killed, intentionally, every firstborn child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh.
The rest I'll just give the locations in your sacred book.
Exodus 20:9-10.
2 Kings 16:23-24.
Leviticus 26:30.
1 Samuel 15:11-18.
1 Kings 16:34.
Isaiah 13:15-18. (This is one of my favorites)......... God can find you, he will, "thrust you through," smash your children "to pieces" before your eyes and rape your wife.
Jeremiah 19:7-9. Got will make parents eat their own children and friends eat each other.
Here's another one of my favorites. Lamentations 2:20-22. God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.
Now there a lot more but I'm sure that the preacher knows what I'm talking about.
Will if you're teaching from the old testament from your sacred book, lets start with these;
Deuteronomy 17.
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the lord thy god giveth thee, man or woman, that have wrought wickedness in the sight of the lord thy god, in transgressing his covenant;17:3 and have gone and served other gods, and worship them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the hosts of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 and it be told thee, and thou has heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 then shall thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, until they die
Here's a few dealing with children;
Leviticus 20;9 for every one that curses his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be a pawn him.
Judges;11:30-40 Jephthah killed his younger daughter (his only daughter) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
Psalms;137:8-9. Talks about dashing little children against stones.
2Kings 6:28-29. Interesting enough this one talks about cannibalism.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21. Talks about a disobedient son and how everybody should stone him to death.
Judges 19:24-29. Talks about how a father took his daughter and let men have their way with her and then he cut her up into 12 pieces and scattered them over the land.
Exodus 12:29. God killed, intentionally, every firstborn child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh.
The rest I'll just give the locations in your sacred book.
Exodus 20:9-10.
2 Kings 16:23-24.
Leviticus 26:30.
1 Samuel 15:11-18.
1 Kings 16:34.
Isaiah 13:15-18. (This is one of my favorites)......... God can find you, he will, "thrust you through," smash your children "to pieces" before your eyes and rape your wife.
Jeremiah 19:7-9. Got will make parents eat their own children and friends eat each other.
Here's another one of my favorites. Lamentations 2:20-22. God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.
Now there a lot more but I'm sure that the preacher knows what I'm talking about.
Not a single one of those are applicable to the Christian today. I don't expect you to understand the context of them....as you are not a Christian. I get that. But those were commands given to the ancient Israelites. Many of them are not even commands -- they are descriptions of what happened, or accounts of the feelings of people that were being oppressed by the enemies of Israel.
So I ask you again.....can you give me a single verse that tells Christians that they should kill a child? I'm not aware of any.
When have I ever suggested I didn't? Of course I do. But there is nothing in Christianity that would tell a man to kill his child.
First, there is Jeremiah 19:9 where God says that he will cause parents to eat the flesh of their children.
Proverbs 30:17 talks about how children will have their eyes plucked out and eaten by eagles if they mock their parents. I guess you could argue that plucking out eyes of children is better than killing them.
However in more cases, God just killed children directly like he did to all the firstborn children in an entire country in Exodus 12:29-30.
edit to add: I see that someone else already posted a better version of my post.
First, there is Jeremiah 19:9 where God says that he will cause parents to eat the flesh of their children.
Proverbs 30:17 talks about how children will have their eyes plucked out and eaten by eagles if they mock their parents. I guess you could argue that plucking out eyes of children is better than killing them.
However in more cases, God just killed children directly like he did to all the firstborn children in an entire country in Exodus 12:29-30.
You really need to understand context. God doesn't cause anyone to cannibalize their children--he merely states that it will happen.
As far as Exodus 12? That's not a command for us to kill anyone.
Still waiting for anyone to give me an example how this nut job was acting out his Christianity.
Not a single one of those are applicable to the Christian today. I don't expect you to understand the context of them....as you are not a Christian. I get that. But those were commands given to the ancient Israelites. Many of them are not even commands -- they are descriptions of what happened, or accounts of the feelings of people that were being oppressed by the enemies of Israel.
So I ask you again.....can you give me a single verse that tells Christians that they should kill a child? I'm not aware of any.
Well then preacher, why are you still preaching the old testament to your congregation? I find it kind of interesting that when an individual presents you with all the different passages in your sacred book that has to do with the taking of innocent life, you very conveniently say that these are passages from the old testament (and that may be true) and do not apply to you as Christians, and yet, you as a Christian preacher continue to teach that to your congregation. You either teach the old testament or you don't and if you do, your teaching all those passages about taking innocent lives also.
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